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Follow Jaron Lanier— it's freeIs the internet too far gone or can we still fix it? Neil deGrasse Tyson, and co-hosts Negin Farsad and Gary O’Reilly, sit down with Jaron Lanier, Microsoft scientist, and father of virtual reality, to diagnose what went wrong with the web, how it’s changed with AI, and ideas for a new path back. NOTE: StarTalk+ Patrons can listen to this entire episode commercial-free here: https://startalkmedia.com/show/fixing-the-internet-with-jaron-lanier/ Thanks to our Patrons Pam Komm, Domin Vernetti, Hank Thundercloud, Home, Rsnd341, Michelle Box, PSR, Pierre Henry, Diana Vastardis, Ronald Vink, Tylor, Martin Lutonský, Timothy McIntosh, Omar Austin, Terry Tarpley, Albert Lyons, Jefferson Buttram, James Boddie, Camerun Pippin, Pitcher Rendon, Jonathan Farmer, Jeremy, Geir Sanne, Bee Dot, Christian Garcia, Bartizan, Sooraj Meyanamannil, Gert Coppens, Justin Brock, Daniel Stowens, Austin, Maurice Brown, Nathaniel A. Lordes Jr., MonzyL, Professor Deadly Robot, Lola ₍^. .^₎Ⳋ, Tim Moorehead, Nancy Cliff, Peter McAuley, Nathan Sprow, Ryan Hadley, TechCadet, Mike Ernst, James, Elliott Stevenson II, Caleb Williams, Rat Poison Vendor, Sebastian Weber, Smoke Dogg 414, The Anomaly of Two Systems, Patrick Kilduff, Stuffy979, Dan Yaroch, Agasthya Suresh, Brian Entman, Steve Vance, Simon Osadchii, Judas, Michelle Don Carlos, John Janney APR, ALottOfIdeas, BJ Verheyen, Tuomas Liimatta, Kuchi Kopi, Robin Maher, Evan Esau, Elhoufi Mbarek, Ezra Amador, Fallen Angel, Lyd, John D., Dread Maps, David Roth, Bogdan Rus, The_pink_boots, Randy Wallace, J K, Jim Lee, Melvin Chapple, Ryan Vaughn, Kelley Bie, Jai, Robert Ayan, Mikael Emsing, C George, Mark Nichols, Shantanusinh Parmar, Kyla, Carlos Sosa Denis, Honk, Terrance Jones, Brandt S, Steve Litz, Nathaniel Fodor, David Bunting, Christopher Velasquez, Flubbels, Nicholas Scott, Elhoufi Mbarek, and Patrick Snyder for supporting us this week. Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of StarTalk Radio ad-free and a whole week early. Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus . Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Jaron Lanier, E. Glen Weyl, and Taylor Black join Beauty at Work for a wide-ranging conversation on artificial intelligence, innovation, and the deeper questions of meaning, faith, and human flourishing that surround emerging technologies. Jaron Lanier coined the terms Virtual Reality and Mixed Reality and is widely regarded as a founding figure of the field. He has served as a leading critic of digital culture and social media, and his books include You Are Not a Gadget and Who Owns the Future? In 2018, Wired Magazine named him one of the 25 most influential people in technology of the previous 25 years. Time Magazine named him one of the 100 most influential people in the world. Jaron is currently the Prime Unifying Scientist at Microsoft’s Office of the Chief Technology Officer, which spells out “Octopus”, in reference to his fascination with cephalopod neurology. He is also a musician and composer who has recently performed or recorded with Sara Bareilles, T Bone Burnett, Jon Batiste, Philip Glass, and many others. E. Glen Weyl is Founder and Research Lead at Microsoft Research’s Plural Technology Collaboratory and Co-Founder of the Plurality Institute and RadicalxChange Foundation. He is the co-author of Radical Markets and Plurality and works at the intersection of economics, technology, democracy, and social institutions. Taylor Black is Director of AI & Venture Ecosystems in the Office of the Chief Technology Officer at Microsoft and the founding director of the Leonum Institute on Emerging Technologies and AI at The Catholic University of America. His background spans philosophy, law, and technology leadership. In this second part of our conversation, we talk about: 1. The idea that modern technology and AI, in particular, have taken on religious or idolatrous qualities 2. Why the Talmud offers a powerful model for collective intelligence without erasing individual voices 3. The dangers of excessive anonymity in digital systems and AI training 4. The idea of “superintelligences” as collective human systems like corporations, democracies, and religions 5. Vatican-led efforts toward algorithmic ethics and the protection of human dignity 6. Where Glen and Jaron disagree about human-centered AI 7. AI as a tool for metacognition 8. How imagination, storytelling, and shared meaning can shape the future of innovation To learn more about Jaron, Glen and Taylor’s work, you can find them at: Jaron Lanier - https://www.jaronlanier.com/ Glen Weyl - https://glenweyl.com/ Taylor Black - https://www.linkedin.com/in/blacktaylor/ Books and Resources mentioned: You Are Not a Gadget (Jaron Lanier) Who Owns the Future? (Jaron Lanier) Radical Markets (Eric Posner & E. Glen Weyl) Plurality (Audrey Tang & E. Glen Weyl) The Human Use of Human Beings (Norbert Wiener) The Fellowship of the Ring (J.R.R. Tolkien) This season of the podcast is sponsored by Templeton Religion Trust. Support the show
Jaron Lanier, E. Glen Weyl, and Taylor Black join Beauty at Work for a wide-ranging conversation on artificial intelligence, innovation, and the deeper questions of meaning, faith, and human flourishing that surround emerging technologies. Jaron Lanier coined the terms Virtual Reality and Mixed Reality and is widely regarded as a founding figure of the field. He has served as a leading critic of digital culture and social media, and his books include You Are Not a Gadget and Who Owns the Future? In 2018, Wired Magazine named him one of the 25 most influential people in technology of the previous 25 years. Time Magazine named him one of the 100 most influential people in the world. Jaron is currently the Prime Unifying Scientist at Microsoft’s Office of the Chief Technology Officer, which spells out “Octopus”, in reference to his fascination with cephalopod neurology. He is also a musician and composer who has recently performed or recorded with Sara Bareilles, T Bone Burnett, Jon Batiste, Philip Glass, and many others. E. Glen Weyl is Founder and Research Lead at Microsoft Research’s Plural Technology Collaboratory and Co-Founder of the Plurality Institute and RadicalxChange Foundation. He is the co-author of Radical Markets and Plurality and works at the intersection of economics, technology, democracy, and social institutions. Taylor Black is Director of AI & Venture Ecosystems in the Office of the Chief Technology Officer at Microsoft and the founding director of the Leonum Institute on Emerging Technologies and AI at The Catholic University of America. His background spans philosophy, law, and technology leadership. In this first part of our conversation, we discuss: 1. How aesthetic experience shapes worldview, imagination, and intellectual vocation 2. The historical rivalry between artificial intelligence and cybernetics 3. The danger of treating AI as an object of faith or a replacement for human meaning 4. The psychological and spiritual costs of assuming people will become obsolete 5. A tension between two different modalities of beauty To learn more about Jaron, Glen and Taylor’s work, you can find them at: Jaron Lanier - https://www.jaronlanier.com/ Glen Weyl - https://glenweyl.com/ Taylor Black - https://www.linkedin.com/in/blacktaylor/ Books and Resources mentioned: You Are Not a Gadget (Jaron Lanier) Who Owns the Future? (Jaron Lanier) Radical Markets (Eric Posner & E. Glen Weyl) Plurality (Audrey Tang & E. Glen Weyl) The Human Use of Human Beings (Norbert Wiener) The Fellowship of the Ring (J.R.R. Tolkien) This season of the podcast is sponsored by Templeton Religion Trust. Support the show
If you want to think sharper, feel stronger, and perform better — visit www.tonum.com/IMPOSSIBLE and use code IMPOSSIBLE for 10% off your first order. Try Shortform, the invaluable app that helps me prepare for every conversation I have! Get $50 off the annual plan at https://shortform.com/impossible Today, I'm speaking with Jaron Lanier, a pioneer in VR, about where it will take us next to expand human consciousness. In this wide-ranging conversation, Jaron Lanier explores how technology reshapes perception, identity, and the future of humanity. From the psychology of virtual reality to the energy demands of modern AI, we trace how today’s tools influence what it means to be human—and what kind of humans we might ultimately become. KEY TAKEAWAYS 00:01:52 Lanier warns AI may reduce human uniqueness. 00:09:23 VR can alter how we perceive and inhabit our bodies. 00:12:58 VR faces biological limits like cyber-sickness. 00:28:43 Reality and VR both distort perception in useful ways. 00:40:20 AI’s rapid growth is driving major energy demands. 00:54:59 Apple’s original “iPhone” idea was partly inspired by Lanier’s VR headset. 01:00:53 Talmudic tradition shows the value of preserving multiple perspectives. 01:14:59 Human senses are both extremely precise and deeply flawed. 01:31:10 Tech culture often mimics medieval-style philosophical debates. 01:41:45 Social media harms users by manipulating attention. 01:51:26 Technology shapes the kind of humans we choose to become. - Additional resources: Get My NEW Book: Focus Like a Nobel Prize Winner: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FN8DH6SX?ref_=pe_93986420_775043100 Please join my mailing list here 👉 https://briankeating.com/yt to win a meteorite 💥 - Join this channel to get access to perks like monthly Office Hours: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmXH_moPhfkqCk6S3b9RWuw/join 📚 Get a copy of my books: Think Like a Nobel Prize Winner, with life changing interviews with 9 Nobel Prizewinners: https://a.co/d/03ezQFu My tell-all cosmic memoir Losing the Nobel Prize: http://amzn.to/2sa5UpA The first-ever audiobook from Galileo: Dialogue Concerning the Two Chief World Systems: Ptolemaic and Copernican https://a.co/d/iZPi9Un 📺 Watch my most popular videos:📺 Neil Turok https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dt5cFLN65fI Frank Wilczek https://youtu.be/3z8RqKMQHe0?sub_confirmation=1 Eric Weinstein vs. Stephen Wolfram https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OI0AZ4Y4Ip4?sub_confirmation=1 Sir Roger Penrose: https://youtu.be/AMuqyAvX7Wo Sabine Hossenfelder: https://youtu.be/g00ilS6tBvs Avi Loeb: https://youtu.be/N9lUceHsLRw Follow me to ask questions of my guests: 🏄♂️ Twitter: https://twitter.com/DrBrianKeating 🔔 Subscribe https://www.youtube.com/DrBrianKeating?sub_confirmation=1 📝 Join my mailing list; just click here http://briankeating.com/list ✍️ Detailed Blog posts here: https://briankeating.com/blog 🎙️ Listen on audio-only platforms: https://briankeating.com/podcast #universe #podcast #briankeating #intotheimpossible #science #astronomy #cosmology #cosmicmicrowavebackground #intotheimpossible #briankeating #Jaronlanier Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Artificial intelligence isn’t alive. But our belief that it is may be the most dangerous illusion of all. Tech leaders talk about AI as if it thinks for itself. But that fantasy hides a more nuanced story about people, power, and profit. In this episode of Futurology, musician and technologist Jaron Lanier joins Futurology Producer Grant Slater to explain why treating AI as a creature, rather than a tool, lets corporations own the work of millions and silence the humans behind the code. Lanier argues that every algorithm is built from borrowed human creativity — the songs, stories, and patterns we’ve already made. The way forward, he says, is to restore data dignity: valuing people for the music and meaning they create, instead of worshipping the machines that remix it. Resources Who Owns the Future — Jaron Lanier (Book, 2013) The Dawn of the New Everything — Jaron Lanier (Book, 2017) Vers la flamme — Alexander Scriabin (Solo Piano Piece, 1914) A Blueprint for a Better Digital Society — Jaron Lanier and E. Glen Weyl (Article, 2018) Computing Machinery and Intelligence — Alan Turing (Article, 1950) Instruments of Change — Jaron Lanier (Album, 1994) Fantasia — Walt Disney Productions (Film, 1940) Snow Crash — Neal Stephenson (Novel, 1992) Want to share suggestions or feedback? Email futurology@berggruen.org Keep up to Date with the Berggruen Institute at: https://www.berggruen.org Instagram : / berggrueninst Twitter/X : / berggrueninst Facebook : / berggrueninst LinkedIn : / berggrueninst Bluesky /futurologypod Credits Producers: Grant Slater, Alex Gardels, Nathalia Ramos Associate Producer: Elissa Mardiney Mixing & Mastering: Aaron Bastinelli Theme Music: Marcus Bagala Special Thanks: Heather Mason, Olivia de Rienzo, Carly Migliori, Nick Goddard
“AI is obviously the dominant topic in tech lately, and I think occasionally there's AI that's nonsense, and occasionally there's AI that's great. I love finding new proteins for medicine and so on. I don't think we serve ourselves well when we put our own technology up as if it were a new God that we created. I think we're really getting a little too full of ourselves to think that. This goes back to Alan Turing, the main founder of computer science, who had this idea of the Turing test. In the test, you can't tell whether the computer has gotten more human-like or the human has gotten more computer-like. People are very prone to becoming more computer-like. When we're on social media, we let ourselves be guided by the algorithms, so we start to become dumb in the way the algorithms want us to. You see that all the time. It's really degraded our psychologies and our society.” Jaron Lanier is a pioneering technologist, writer, and musician, best known for coining the term “Virtual Reality” and founding VPL Research, the first company to sell VR products. He led early breakthroughs in virtual worlds, avatars, and VR applications in fields like surgery and media. Lanier writes on the philosophy and economics of technology in his bestselling book Who Owns the Future? and You Are Not a Gadget . His book Dawn of the New Everything: Encounters with Reality and Virtual Reality is an inventive blend of autobiography, science writing, and philosophy. Lanier has been named one of TIME ’s 100 most influential people and serves as Prime Unifying Scientist at Microsoft’s Office of the CTO—aka “Octopus.” As a musician, he’s performed with Sara Bareilles, Philip Glass, T Bone Burnett, Laurie Anderson, Jon Batiste, and others. Episode Website www.creativepr ocess.info/pod Instagram: @creativeprocesspodcast Photo credit: Michael Springer
“AI is obviously the dominant topic in tech lately, and I think occasionally there's AI that's nonsense, and occasionally there's AI that's great. I love finding new proteins for medicine and so on. I don't think we serve ourselves well when we put our own technology up as if it were a new God that we created. I think we're really getting a little too full of ourselves to think that. This goes back to Alan Turing, the main founder of computer science, who had this idea of the Turing test. In the test, you can't tell whether the computer has gotten more human-like or the human has gotten more computer-like. People are very prone to becoming more computer-like. When we're on social media, we let ourselves be guided by the algorithms, so we start to become dumb in the way the algorithms want us to. You see that all the time. It's really degraded our psychologies and our society.” Jaron Lanier is a pioneering technologist, writer, and musician, best known for coining the term “Virtual Reality” and founding VPL Research, the first company to sell VR products. He led early breakthroughs in virtual worlds, avatars, and VR applications in fields like surgery and media. Lanier writes on the philosophy and economics of technology in his bestselling book Who Owns the Future? and You Are Not a Gadget . His book Dawn of the New Everything: Encounters with Reality and Virtual Reality is an inventive blend of autobiography, science writing, and philosophy. Lanier has been named one of TIME ’s 100 most influential people and serves as Prime Unifying Scientist at Microsoft’s Office of the CTO—aka “Octopus.” As a musician, he’s performed with Sara Bareilles, Philip Glass, T Bone Burnett, Laurie Anderson, Jon Batiste, and others. Episode Website www.creativepr ocess.info/pod Instagram: @creativeprocesspodcast Photo credit: Michael Springer
“AI is obviously the dominant topic in tech lately, and I think occasionally there's AI that's nonsense, and occasionally there's AI that's great. I love finding new proteins for medicine and so on. I don't think we serve ourselves well when we put our own technology up as if it were a new God that we created. I think we're really getting a little too full of ourselves to think that. This goes back to Alan Turing, the main founder of computer science, who had this idea of the Turing test. In the test, you can't tell whether the computer has gotten more human-like or the human has gotten more computer-like. People are very prone to becoming more computer-like. When we're on social media, we let ourselves be guided by the algorithms, so we start to become dumb in the way the algorithms want us to. You see that all the time. It's really degraded our psychologies and our society.” Jaron Lanier is a pioneering technologist, writer, and musician, best known for coining the term “Virtual Reality” and founding VPL Research, the first company to sell VR products. He led early breakthroughs in virtual worlds, avatars, and VR applications in fields like surgery and media. Lanier writes on the philosophy and economics of technology in his bestselling book Who Owns the Future? and You Are Not a Gadget . His book Dawn of the New Everything: Encounters with Reality and Virtual Reality is an inventive blend of autobiography, science writing, and philosophy. Lanier has been named one of TIME ’s 100 most influential people and serves as Prime Unifying Scientist at Microsoft’s Office of the CTO—aka “Octopus.” As a musician, he’s performed with Sara Bareilles, Philip Glass, T Bone Burnett, Laurie Anderson, Jon Batiste, and others. Episode Website www.creativepr ocess.info/pod Instagram: @creativeprocesspodcast Photo credit: Michael Springer
“AI is obviously the dominant topic in tech lately, and I think occasionally there's AI that's nonsense, and occasionally there's AI that's great. I love finding new proteins for medicine and so on. I don't think we serve ourselves well when we put our own technology up as if it were a new God that we created. I think we're really getting a little too full of ourselves to think that. This goes back to Alan Turing, the main founder of computer science, who had this idea of the Turing test. In the test, you can't tell whether the computer has gotten more human-like or the human has gotten more computer-like. People are very prone to becoming more computer-like. When we're on social media, we let ourselves be guided by the algorithms, so we start to become dumb in the way the algorithms want us to. You see that all the time. It's really degraded our psychologies and our society.” Jaron Lanier is a pioneering technologist, writer, and musician, best known for coining the term “Virtual Reality” and founding VPL Research, the first company to sell VR products. He led early breakthroughs in virtual worlds, avatars, and VR applications in fields like surgery and media. Lanier writes on the philosophy and economics of technology in his bestselling book Who Owns the Future? and You Are Not a Gadget . His book Dawn of the New Everything: Encounters with Reality and Virtual Reality is an inventive blend of autobiography, science writing, and philosophy. Lanier has been named one of TIME ’s 100 most influential people and serves as Prime Unifying Scientist at Microsoft’s Office of the CTO—aka “Octopus.” As a musician, he’s performed with Sara Bareilles, Philip Glass, T Bone Burnett, Laurie Anderson, Jon Batiste, and others. Episode Website www.creativepr ocess.info/pod Instagram: @creativeprocesspodcast Photo credit: Michael Springer
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Presented by Jaron Lanier as part of Human Energy's N2 Conference 2023 at the University of California, Berkeley Jaron Zepel Lanier is an American computer scientist, visual artist, computer philosophy writer, technologist, futurist, and composer of contemporary classical music. Considered a founder of the field of virtual reality. Learn more at https://humanenergy.io
The season of tech is upon us! Hold on to your hats and press those non-fungible tokens tightly to your bosom, because we are getting into the thick of it. Matt and Chris kick things off with an exploration of tech pioneer Jaron Lanier. Sometimes referred to as the father of virtual reality, Jaron is a promising candidate for gurudom given his foreboding warnings of a bleak algorithmic future and a penchant for opening tech lectures barefoot with impromptu performances of exotic instruments. In short, he's a groovy guy and Matt digs that! Chris, being the sour lemon that he is, takes a little while to adjust to Jaron's particular style. Some Weinsteinian warning signs might be flashing but there really are eccentric and very clever people in the world... and Lanier might just be one of them? He certainly has a track record of critically commenting on techno-optimism and social media platforms for at least two decades. But some of his pronouncements seem a tad OTT and some recommendations a little hand-wavy... So how do the decoders square this particular dread-locked circle? Well, you're going to have to listen all the way to the end to find out. So, get yourself comfortable. Drink some coffee and pop some no-doze, and strap yourself in. Smash the Duck! Links Was the Internet a Horrible Mistake? Jaron Lanier on Honestly with Bari Weiss That VR boxing game Chris' mentioned Peterson being a smug judge on Twitter