Ken Liu

Join Emily and Sarah for a conversation with award-winning author Ken Liu — the Hugo, Nebula, and World Fantasy Award–winning writer behind The Paper Menagerie and The Grace of Kings, whose work include both riveting short stories and novels. In this episode we dive into his journey, from making the leap to full-time writing, to navigating film and book industry opportunities, and explore how he builds stories that operate not just as narratives but as metaphors for identity, culture, and technology. Ken discusses his newest novel, All That We See or Seem, a near-future thriller where art, AI, and human yearning intersect, and the conversations talks about the evolving fantasy and sci-fi market. We cover, the moment he decided to write full time, and how that opened doors beyond publishing. His method of embedding metaphor in every short story from a craft angle to ground it in deeper themes. His take on fantasy and science fiction today: how the genre is changing in a bigger romantasy market, what readers are looking for, and where he sees it headed. And a thoughtful discussion on AI and art: what it means for creators, for originality, for the future of storytelling. Whether you’re a writer, a sci-fi fan, or simply curious about how an author thinks about art in tech-driven times, this episode offers a thoughtful, dive into the craft and the future from one of the best and celebrated writers of our generation. Ken Liu Website Books Mentioned - We strongly encourage that listeners purchase these titles from their favorite indie bookstore All That We See or Seem by Ken Liu The Paper Menagerie and Other Stories by Ken Liu The Grace of Kings by Ken Liu Paradise Lost by John Milton Percy Jackson series Emily Varga's books Sarah Mughal Rana's books Come back on the first Thursday of every month for a brand new episode of On the Write Track Pod. Make sure you hit the follow button to get notified, and like and subscribe to the podcast wherever you listen! Sign up to our Patreon where you can receive exclusive perks, some for as little as the cost of a coffee! Did you enjoy the episode? Please leave us a review! Follow the podcast @OntheWriteTrackPodcast on Instagram. Also connect with Sarah and Emily on Instagram or TikTok!

This week’s guest is author, lawyer, and engineer Ken Liu — a man of many talents. You may know him for his collections The Paper Menagerie and The Hidden Girl , his fantasy quartet The Dandelion Dynasty , inspiring the show Pantheon , or perhaps even translating The Three-Body Problem . His recent novel All That We See or Seem is a near-future thriller about a beloved AI ‘dream artist’ who disappears without a trace, as well as the hacker trying to find her. It is the first of several planned ‘Julia Z novels’. In this episode, we discussed Liu’s inspiration for this new novel, his concept of ‘silkpunk’ in the context of The Dandelion Dynasty , and the uncertain future of art in the age of AI. You can find more information about him on his website kenliu.name or right here on Substack at The Lion's Teeth . Enjoy! TIMESTAMPS 00:00:12 – Intro 00:00:56 – Ken Liu’s new thriller All That We See or Seem 00:02:22 – “Dreamweaving” and why using AI feels like a dream 00:09:26 – Why did LLMs not make it into literature earlier? 00:18:13 – Writing near-future SF and “ Real Artists ” 00:27:36 – AI as a copying machine of the “desired original” 00:34:02 – Compensating artists in the age of AI 00:41:53 – Silkpunk and The Dandelion Dynasty 00:49:05 – Tax policy and cultural technology 00:56:23 – “All life is an experiment” 00:00:57 – Conclusion and final recommendations 01:02:51 – Synthesized Sunsets Backstage begins 01:05:17 – Ken Liu is unusually optimistic about AI art 01:12:22 – How will idiolects of AI and humans feed off each other? 01:18:03 – The Dandelion Dynasty as an experiment in exposition 01:23:45 – The character of Mata Zyndu and writing morality out of time 01:26:06 – The Paper Menagerie and The Hidden Girl are really different 01:27:44 – “Byzantine Empathy” by Ken Liu 01:30:29 – Ken Liu on the irrealism of fiction that avoids technology 01:33:03 – New season / reopening for submissions 01:35:03 – Conclusion and final recommendations This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit synthesizedsunsets.substack.com/subscribe

In this episode, Ken Liu joins the podcast to explore how science fiction serves as our modern mythology. We discuss his new techno-thriller "All That We See or Seem", the concept of egolets (AI capturing facets of our identity), the noematograph (AI as a camera for thought), and the role of collective dreaming in making us more human. Ken also reflects on Frankenstein, Philip K. Dick, the challenge of translation, and why technology is “the mind made tangible.” Ken's new book is now available to buy: https://www.amazon.com/All-That-Seem-Julia-Novel/dp/1668083175/ref=sr_1_1?crid=YQBXYV3NPYRQ&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.qZEp-FJsQjZ1DeI_1aU9dUCHVQLskKq0l80APpXt8lY._8ZY1FJprDwz6sXFyMqa538OZaQZx-_KzsBkHjRww1g&dib_tag=se&keywords=ken+liu+all+that+we+see+or+seem&qid=1758810447&sprefix=ken+liu+all%2Caps%2C326&sr=8-1 On the Existential Hope Podcast hosts Allison Duettmann and Beatrice Erkers from the Foresight Institute invite scientists, founders, and philosophers for in-depth conversations on positive, high-tech futures. Full transcript, listed resources, and more: https://www.existentialhope.com/podcasts Follow on X . Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Technology and human consciousness are converging in ways that challenge our fundamental understanding of creativity and connection. As AI systems become increasingly sophisticated at mimicking human thought patterns, we're entering uncharted territory where machines don't just assist creative work—they actively participate in it. But what does this mean for the future of human creativity and our relationship with technology? How do we maintain meaningful human connections in a world where emotional labor is increasingly commoditized? As we navigate this rapidly evolving landscape, the question isn't just whether machines can think, but how their thinking will transform our own. Ken Liu is an American author of speculative fiction. A winner of the Nebula, Hugo, and World Fantasy awards, he wrote the Dandelion Dynasty, a silkpunk epic fantasy series, as well as short story collections The Paper Menagerie and Other Stories and The Hidden Girl and Other Stories. His latest book is All that We See or Seem, a techno-thriller starring an AI-whispering hacker who saves the world. He also translated Cixin Liu’s seminal book series, the Three-Body Problem. He’s often involved in media adaptations of his work. Recent projects include “The Regular,” under development as a TV series; “Good Hunting,” adapted as an episode in season one of Netflix’s breakout adult animated series Love, Death + Robots; and AMC’s Pantheon, with Craig Silverstein as executive producer, adapted from an interconnected series of Liu’s short stories. Prior to becoming a full-time writer, Liu worked as a software engineer, corporate lawyer, and litigation consultant. Liu frequently speaks on a variety of topics, including futurism, machine-augmented creativity, history of technology, bookmaking, and the mathematics of origami. In the episode, Adel and Ken explore the intersection of technology and storytelling, how sci-fi can inform AI's trajectory, the role of AI in reshaping human relationships and creativity, how AI is changing art, and much more. Links Mentioned in the Show: Ken’s Books Ken on Substack , Ken on X Skill Track: AI Fundamentals Related Episode: What History Tells Us About the Future of AI with Verity Harding, Author of AI Needs You Rewatch RADAR AI New to DataCamp? Learn on the go using the DataCamp mobile app Empower your business with world-class data and AI skills with DataCamp for business

It’s a bit surprising to hear a writer known for building worlds that incorporate deep historical research and elaborate technological details extol the virtues of play, but Ken Liu tells critic Rose Casey and host Sarah Wasserman that if “your idea of heaven doesn’t include play, then I’m not sure it’s a heaven people want to go to.” It turns out that Ken—acclaimed translator and author of the “silkpunk” epic fantasy series Dandelion Dynasty and the award-winning short story collection The Paper Menagerie —is deeply serious about play. Speaking about play as the key to technological progress, Ken and Rose discuss the importance of whimsy and the inextricable relationship between imagination and usefulness. For Ken, whose Dandelion Dynasty makes heroes of engineers instead of wizards or knights, precise machinery and innovative gadgets are born, like novels, of imagination. Ken himself might be best described as a meticulous, dedicated tinkerer—a writer playing with the materials and stories of the past to help us encounter new worlds in the present. So even if trying to explain his craft is “like asking fish how they swim,” Ken jumps in and discusses how he writes at such different lengths (hint: the longer the book, the more elephantine) and what he makes of different genre labels, from fantasy to historical fiction. We also learn why Ken is a fan of Brat Summer and still thinking about the Roman Empire. Mentioned in this episode: Ken Liu, Speaking Bones (2022), The Veiled Throne (2021), The Wall of Storms (2017), The Grace of Kings (2016), The Paper Menagerie and Other Stories (2016) Cixin Liu, The Three-Body Problem (2014) Rose Casey, Jessica Wilkerson, Johanna Winant, “An Open Letter from Faculty at West Virginia University” (2023) Rose Casey, “In Defense of Higher Education” (2024) Ursula K. LeGuin, “ The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas” (1973) Homer, The Odyssey Virgil, The Aeneid John Milton, Paradise Lost A.M. Turing, “Computing Machinery and Intelligence” (1950) Brat Summer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It’s a bit surprising to hear a writer known for building worlds that incorporate deep historical research and elaborate technological details extol the virtues of play, but Ken Liu tells critic Rose Casey and host Sarah Wasserman that if “your idea of heaven doesn’t include play, then I’m not sure it’s a heaven people want to go to.” It turns out that Ken—acclaimed translator and author of the “silkpunk” epic fantasy series Dandelion Dynasty and the award-winning short story collection The Paper Menagerie —is deeply serious about play. Speaking about play as the key to technological progress, Ken and Rose discuss the importance of whimsy and the inextricable relationship between imagination and usefulness. For Ken, whose Dandelion Dynasty makes heroes of engineers instead of wizards or knights, precise machinery and innovative gadgets are born, like novels, of imagination. Ken himself might be best described as a meticulous, dedicated tinkerer—a writer playing with the materials and stories of the past to help us encounter new worlds in the present. So even if trying to explain his craft is “like asking fish how they swim,” Ken jumps in and discusses how he writes at such different lengths (hint: the longer the book, the more elephantine) and what he makes of different genre labels, from fantasy to historical fiction. We also learn why Ken is a fan of Brat Summer and still thinking about the Roman Empire. Mentioned in this episode: Ken Liu, Speaking Bones (2022), The Veiled Throne (2021), The Wall of Storms (2017), The Grace of Kings (2016), The Paper Menagerie and Other Stories (2016) Cixin Liu, The Three-Body Problem (2014) Rose Casey, Jessica Wilkerson, Johanna Winant, “An Open Letter from Faculty at West Virginia University” (2023) Rose Casey, “In Defense of Higher Education” (2024) Ursula K. LeGuin, “ The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas” (1973) Homer, The Odyssey Virgil, The Aeneid John Milton, Paradise Lost A.M. Turing, “Computing Machinery and Intelligence” (1950) Brat Summer Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/literary-studies

Ken Liu (born 1976) is an American author of science fiction and fantasy. Liu has won multiple Hugo and Nebula Awards for his novel translations and original short fiction. Liu's short story "The Paper Menagerie" is the first work of fiction, of any length, to win all of the Nebula, Hugo, and World Fantasy Awards. Besides his original work, Liu's translation of Liu Cixin's Chinese language novel The Three-Body Problem (the first in the Remembrance of Earth's Past trilogy) won the 2015 Hugo Award for Best Novel, making it the first translated novel to have won the award. He studied English Literature and Computer Science at Harvard College, and graduated from Harvard Law School. https://kenliu.name/ Steve and Ken discuss: 00:00 Meet Ken Liu: Acclaimed Sci-Fi and Fantasy Writer 04:25 The Immigrant Experience and Cultural Perspectives 09:22 Harvard, MSFT, HLS, Litigation 15:01 The Art of Storytelling and Technology 34:03 Controversy in AI Reasoning 34:31 Technology Outstripping Science 35:22 AI and the Arts 38:30 The Future of AI in Art 42:44 AI's Role in Creative Processes 50:04 Art, Automation, and Society 57:31 Favorite Science Fiction and Fantasy 01:03:06 The Genius of Philip K. Dick Music used with permission from Blade Runner Blues Livestream improvisation by State Azure. – Steve Hsu is Professor of Theoretical Physics and of Computational Mathematics, Science, and Engineering at Michigan State University. Previously, he was Senior Vice President for Research and Innovation at MSU and Director of the Institute of Theoretical Science at the University of Oregon. Hsu is a startup founder (SuperFocus.ai, SafeWeb, Genomic Prediction, Othram) and advisor to venture capital and other investment firms. He was educated at Caltech and Berkeley, was a Harvard Junior Fellow, and has held faculty positions at Yale, the University of Oregon, and MSU. Please send any questions or suggestions to manifold1podcast@gmail.com or Steve on X @hsu_steve.

Elena es una desarrolladora de muñecas tan avanzadas en sus algoritmos que son capaces de superar el test de Turing. La sistematización de los algoritmos para lograrlo la llevará, en el estado emocional en que se encuentra, a dudar de la realidad misma. ¿Realmente pensamos las personas? ¿Somos conscientes o funcionamos como una habitación china?. La realidad se vuelve tan predecible, como si de algoritmos se trataran, que incluso el comportamiento humano parece seguir unos patrones fijos. Esto llevará a Elena a tomar una decisión drástica, que corregirá los errores pasados en su propio algoritmo. La protagonista es una programadora que, junto con Brad, su marido, dirige una empresa de fabricación de muñecas con un nivel de inteligencia artificial tan elevado que casi se confunde con la inteligencia humana. Ken Liu, 1976 Lanzhou (China). Considerado uno de los mejores autores de ficción breve especulativa, Ken Liu ha recibido en varias ocasiones el premio Hugo, así como el Nébula y el World Fantasy, además de los premios más destacados del género en países como España, Japón y Francia. Su colección "El zoo de papel y otros relatos" se ha publicado en más de una docena de lenguas. Su primera novela, "La gracia de los reyes", que abre la serie de fantasía épica silkpunk "La Dinastía del Diente de León", recibió el premio Locus en 2016. Antes de dedicarse por completo a escribir ha sido ingeniero de software, abogado corporativo y consultor jurídico. Da frecuentes conferencias sobre cuestiones relacionadas con el futurismo, la tecnología y el valor de la ficción entre otros temas. Además, ha participado en las adaptaciones de sus obras a otros medios, como la serie de animación de Netflix "Love, Death + Robots" y "Pantheon", para AMC. ✅LIBROS EN AMAZON KEN LIU: https://amzn.to/3AZlYvI 🎙Más de Ken Liu, "Como anillo al dedo" https://go.ivoox.com/rf/91865485 Disponible mi primer libro ❣️"Crónicas Vampíricas de Vera", en Amazon, formato bolsilibro y kindle. 📕Puedes hacerte con uno aquí: https://amzn.eu/d/8htGfFt 🗒BIO Olga Paraíso: https://instabio.cc/Hleidas Si esta historia te ha cautivado y deseas unirte a nuestro grupo de taberneros galácticos, tienes la oportunidad de contribuir y apoyar mi trabajo desde tan solo 1,49 euros al mes. Al hacerlo, tendrás acceso exclusivo a todos las historias para nuestros mecenas y podrás disfrutar de todas las historias sin interrupciones publicitarias. ¡Agradezco enormemente tu apoyo y tu fidelidad!. 🚀 🖤Aquí te dejo la página directa para apoyarme: 🍻 https://www.ivoox.com/support/552842 PODCAST creados por OLGA PARAÍSO 🎙 🚀Historias para ser Leídas https://go.ivoox.com/sq/583108 ☕Un beso en la taza https://go.ivoox.com/sq/583108 y en el canal de YouTube HISTORIAS PARA SER LEÍDAS. Escucha el episodio completo en la app de iVoox, o descubre todo el catálogo de iVoox Originals

Send us a text Are author’s heroes? Join us as we examine award-winning author and superstar fantasy writer Ken Liu’s journey via the beats of the Hero’s Journey. We also discuss dealing with failure and how AI affects writing and what role it might play in assisting writers (and readers!) in the future. Today’s drinking game: drink whenever the audio gets garbled! Links: William R. Hincy’s website: https://williamrhincy.com/ Ken Liu’s website: https://kenliu.name/ Bios: William R. Hincy: “Some people run from their demons; others sit down and have cocktails with theirs.” William R. Hincy is a man who does and writes about the latter. Having become a writer after deciding it was the only sensible thing for a problem drinker to do, Hincy aspires to use literature to connect society on an emotional level through characters who no longer create messes but have instead become the mess. Between rounds, Hincy has won 3 American Fiction Awards, an International Book Award, and his personal anthology of short fiction WITHOUT EXPIRATION was named one of the Best Books of 2020 by Kirkus Reviews. He now lives outside Los Angeles with his wife and kids, having found solace in the notion that the only things sacred are self and whiskey-winged interludes. Ken Liu is an American author of speculative fiction. A winner of the Nebula, Hugo, and World Fantasy awards, he wrote the Dandelion Dynasty, a silkpunk epic fantasy series (starting with The Grace of Kings), as well as short story collections The Paper Menagerie and Other Stories and The Hidden Girl and Other Stories. He also penned the Star Wars novel The Legends of Luke Skywalker. Prior to becoming a full-time writer, Liu worked as a software engineer, corporate lawyer, and litigation consultant. Liu frequently speaks at conferences and universities on a variety of topics, including futurism, machine-augmented creativity, history of technology, bookmaking, and the mathematics of origami. About WDW: And for our algo-overlords (please introduce us to your friends!)… Welcome to your literary happy hour, Writers Drinking Whiskey, the show where you share a drink with writers from around the globe and you find more than your next read: you find the next AUTHOR you're going to love. Hosted by award-winning author William R. Hincy, the show takes booktube, authortube and booktok to another level with engaging, in-depth, and merrily irreverent conversations with today’s most interesting writers. And for our writers joining us, there's plenty of creative writing tips, fiction writing tricks, and poetry read by the poets. Chapters: 00:00:00 Start 00:00:26 Introducing Ken Liu 00:01:51 Where in the world is Ken Liu 00:03:36 The Hero's Journey - author style 00:14:23 The call to act Thanks for tuning in! If you’d like to support the show, please consider joining us on Substack or picking up a book (or two). Links below! For exclusive perks and free fiction, join the crew on Substack. All of these WDW episodes are there, as well as host William R. Hincy's bonkers, rock-n-roll satire, PIRATES OF APPALACHIA: https://wrhincy.substack.com/ Pick up a book here: https://www.amazon.com/stores/William-R.-Hincy/author/B07ZYB5FHZ Finally, shoot your feedback, suggestions, and guest requests to writersdrinking@gmail.com Show less

What can translation and transmission of ideas and stories over time teach us about a society -- and about storytelling? Guest Ken Liu joins us to talk about the intertwining of philosophy, imagination, and translation. As writers, we can never fully translate the story that plays out in our heads onto the page, because every reader will imagine something a little different. How do we embrace that and celebrate it as a lovely part of the human condition? This plays into how we construct our fictional worlds as well. The stories a culture tells about itself and its past are also always acts of translation, taking "what really happened" and putting a spin on it. Why do the people in your invented societies frame stories in the way that they do? How can thinking about the relationship between words, power, leadership, and culture help us build more creativey and inventively? [Transcript TK] Our Guest: Ken Liu ( http://kenliu.name ) is an American author of speculative fiction. A winner of the Nebula, Hugo, and World Fantasy awards for his fiction, he has also won top genre honors abroad in Japan, Spain, and France. Liu’s most characteristic work is the four-volume epic fantasy series, The Dandelion Dynasty , in which engineers, not wizards, are the heroes of a silkpunk world on the verge of modernity. His debut collection of short fiction, The Paper Menagerie and Other Stories , has been published in more than a dozen languages. A second collection, The Hidden Girl and Other Stories , followed. He also penned the Star Wars novel, The Legends of Luke Skywalker . He’s often involved in media adaptations of his work. Recent projects include “The Message,” under development by 21 Laps and FilmNation Entertainment; “Good Hunting,” adapted as an episode in season one of Netflix’s breakout adult animated series Love, Death + Robots ; and AMC’s Pantheon , with Craig Silverstein as executive producer, adapted from an interconnected series of Liu’s short stories. Prior to becoming a full-time writer, Liu worked as a software engineer, corporate lawyer, and litigation consultant. He frequently speaks at conferences and universities on a variety of topics, including futurism, machine-augmented creativity, history of technology, bookmaking, and the mathematics of origami. In addition to his original fiction, Liu also occasionally publishes literary translations. His most recent work of translation is a new rendition of Laozi’s Dao De Jing . Liu lives with his family near Boston, Massachusetts.

This week, Patrick and Tracy welcome Ken Liu , translator of Laozi’s Dao De Jing . About Laozi’s Dao De Jing : Laozi’s Dao De Jing was written around 400 BC by a compassionate soul in a world torn by hatred and ambition, dominated by those that yearned for apocalyptic confrontations and prized ideology over experience. By speaking out against the cleverness of elites and the arrogance of the learned, Laozi upheld the wisdom of the concrete, the humble, the quotidian, the everyday individual dismissed by the great powers of the world. Earthy, playful, and defiant, Laozi’s words gave solace to souls back then, and offer comfort today. Now, this beautifully designed new edition serves as both an accessible new translation of an ancient Chinese classic and a fascinating account of renowned novelist Ken Liu’s transformative experience while wrestling with the classic text. Throughout this translation, Liu takes us through his own struggles to capture the meaning in Laozi’s text in a series of thoughtful and provocative interstitial entries. Unlike traditional notes that purport to be objective, these entries are explicitly personal and unapologetically subjective. Gradually, as Liu learns that true wisdom cannot be pinned down in words, the notes grow sparser until they fade away entirely. His journey suggests the only way out of struggle is to engage with texts that have survived the millennia, wrestling with ideas that gesture at something eternal, in hopes that we might eventually reach that moment of transcendent joy. Liu’s translation, by eschewing cleverness, paradoxically reveals the slipperiness of Laozi’s original. The Dao De Jing has been translated countless times and will be translated countless times in the future. In that constant change and flow, we finally find our home in Dao, the eternal principle that allows us, finite beings in time and space, to reckon and reconcile with the infinite. About Ken Liu : Ken Liu (http://kenliu.name) is an American author of speculative fiction. A winner of the Nebula, Hugo, and World Fantasy awards for his fiction, he has also won top genre honors abroad in Japan, Spain, and France. Liu’s most characteristic work is the four-volume epic fantasy series, The Dandelion Dynasty, in which engineers, not wizards, are the heroes of a silkpunk world on the verge of modernity. His debut collection of short fiction, The Paper Menagerie and Other Stories, has been published in more than a dozen languages. A second collection, The Hidden Girl and Other Stories, followed. He also penned the Star Wars novel, The Legends of Luke Skywalker. He’s often involved in media adaptations of his work. Recent projects include “The Message,” under development by 21 Laps and FilmNation Entertainment; “Good Hunting,” adapted as an episode in season one of Netflix’s breakout adult animated series Love, Death + Robots; and AMC’s Pantheon, with Craig Silverstein as executive pr

Rachael dives into what she spent (and made) on her Kickstarter, and then has an amazing conversation with Ken Liu on world building and the Dao De Jing! Ken Liu ( http://kenliu.name ) is an American author of speculative fiction. A winner of the Nebula, Hugo, and World Fantasy awards, he wrote the Dandelion Dynasty , a silkpunk epic fantasy series (starting with The Grace of Kings ), as well as short story collections The Paper Menagerie and Other Stories and The Hidden Girl and Other Stories . He also penned the Star Wars novel The Legends of Luke Skywalker . Prior to becoming a full-time writer, Liu worked as a software engineer, corporate lawyer, and litigation consultant. Liu frequently speaks at conferences and universities on a variety of topics, including futurism, machine-augmented creativity, history of technology, bookmaking, and the mathematics of origami. Laozi's Dao De Jing: A New Interpretation for a Transformative Time - https://amzn.to/3XR8UEK 🎉 Unstuck is now available HERE ! Ink In Your Veins: How Writers Actually Write (and how you can, too) Writing doesn't have to be so hard. With internationally bestselling author Rachael Herron, learn how to embrace ease, reject perfectionism, and finally create your perfect writing process. (Formerly known as How Do You Write) Come for inspiration, stay for lots more. ✏️ Can I email you some writing help? 💥 90 Days to Done - WRITE YOUR BOOK! 📚 90 Day Revision ! 🪑 Join Onward Writer Slack ! 📅 Rachael Says Plan! Plan with me! 📝 Rachael Says Write ! Write with me! 📙 Publish Your Book ! ❓ I'll Answer Your Questions on Air! EXCLUSIVELY FOR WRITERS: ➡️ How to Know If You’re Writing the Right Book Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.