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Follow Dani Rodrik— it's freeThis episode might sound a little different to normal, as it was recorded live. For decades, the standard prescription for growth in developing countries was clear: industrialise. Dani Rodrik used to argue that manufacturing was the escalator that could lift workers out of low productivity, and economies out of poverty. So what happens when the escalator stops working? Dani Rodrik, Ford Foundation Professor of International Political Economy at Harvard Kennedy School, joins Ideas in Development to explain why he has become a manufacturing skeptic, what the evidence from Ethiopia, India and beyond tells us about where growth is actually coming from, and what an industrial policy fit for a services-led future should look like. Read the full show notes on our Substack: https://ideasindevelopment.substack.com/
Podcast : Capitalisn't (LS 53 · TOP 0.5% what is this? ) Episode : Can We Build a Middle Class Without Factories? - ft. Dani Rodrik Pub date : 2026-01-22 Get Podcast Transcript → powered by Listen411 - fast audio-to-text and summarization Is the era of manufacturing-led growth officially over? For decades, the path to a stable middle class was paved through industrialization, but today, even manufacturing giants like China are losing millions of factory jobs to automation. In this episode, Bethany McLean and Luigi Zingales sit down with Dani Rodrik, Ford Foundation Professor of International Political Economy at Harvard and author of Shared Prosperity in a Fractured World . Rodrik argues that we have "no other choice" but to look toward the service sector to anchor our future economy. But there’s a problem: we still treat these essential roles as "bottom rung" jobs in terms of pay and respect. Is it possible to elevate a job’s status and pay simply because society needs it to be better? As Rodrik argues, it’s a future we must learn to navigate if we want to preserve a stable society. Subscribe to our Youtube Channel Follow Capitalisn’t on Instagram & TikTok Send us your questions or comments by emailing capitalisntpod@gmail.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising. The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from University of Chicago Podcast Network, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.
Is the era of manufacturing-led growth officially over? For decades, the path to a stable middle class was paved through industrialization, but today, even manufacturing giants like China are losing millions of factory jobs to automation. In this episode, Bethany McLean and Luigi Zingales sit down with Dani Rodrik, Ford Foundation Professor of International Political Economy at Harvard and author of Shared Prosperity in a Fractured World . Rodrik argues that we have "no other choice" but to look toward the service sector to anchor our future economy. But there’s a problem: we still treat these essential roles as "bottom rung" jobs in terms of pay and respect. Is it possible to elevate a job’s status and pay simply because society needs it to be better? As Rodrik argues, it’s a future we must learn to navigate if we want to preserve a stable society. Subscribe to our Youtube Channel Follow Capitalisn’t on Instagram & TikTok Send us your questions or comments by emailing capitalisntpod@gmail.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
In Shared Prosperity in a Fractured World: A New Economics for the Middle Class, the Global Poor, and Our Climate , Dani Rodrik proposes new modes of cooperation and policy experimentation to address our greatest global challenges. Rodrik is the Ford Foundation Professor of International Political Economy at Harvard Kennedy School. He codirects both the Reimagining the Economy Program at Harvard and the Economics for Inclusive Prosperity network. In his conversation with Nikolaus Lang, global leader of the BCG Henderson Institute, he discusses the trilemma between democracy, prosperity, and sustainability, how hyper-globalization contributed to this struggle, and his proposed framework for resolving it. Key topics discussed: 01:06 | The trilemma of democracy, prosperity, and sustainability 03:50 | The shortcomings of hyper-globalization 10:33 | Why manufacturing is no longer an escape from poverty 14:47 | Services as drivers of development 18:33 | The new framework of productivism 23:25 | The power of unilateral climate actions 27:26 | Implications for business leaders Additional inspirations from Dani Rodrik: Straight Talk on Trade: Ideas for a Sane World Economy (Princeton University Press, 2017) Economics Rules: The Rights and Wrongs of the Dismal Science (W. W. Norton & Company, 2015)
Rune Lykkeberg taler i denne uge med den tyrkiskfødte økonom, forfatter og professor Dani Rodrik om nødvendigheden af at skabe en bæredygtig økonomi for middelklassen, bekæmpe fattigdom og modgå klimaforandringer. --- Ugens gæst i Langsomme samtaler er økonomen og forfatteren Dani Rodrik, som er professor ved John F. Kennedy School of Government på Harvard University. Født i Istanbul i 1957 har Rodrik oplevet Vesten både indefra og udefra. Han har siddet på et af de eliteuniversiteter i USA, hvor meget af globaliseringen, finanssystemet, og den nye handelsorden er blevet udtænkt, men han har samtidig været en dissident i det økonomiske miljø, hvor han er gået imod strømmen. Allerede i 1990’erne advarede han om, at den måde, vi forestillede os globaliseringen på, ville medføre sociale slagsider. Rodrik udviklede bl.a. begrebet ’hyperglobalisering’ til at beskrive en globalisering, der er gået over gevind og som har ført til, at arbejderklassen er faldet fra hinanden, og at demokratiet er blevet svækket. Alt det har han tidligere fortalt om her i podcasten. Nu har Dani Rodrik så skrevet en ny bog, Sheer Prosperity in a Fractured World , som handler om, hvordan man på én gang kan skabe en bæredygtig økonomi for middelklassen, bekæmpe fattigdom og modgå klimaforandringerne. Han mener, at det er vigtigt at tænke disse tre ting sammen i en ny form for politisk program, der viser vejen for en progressiv globaliserin, der samtidig udgør et antifascistisk svar til Trump. Alt det fortæller Dani Rodrik mere om i denne første udgave af Langsomme samtaler i 2026, hvor han også forklarer, hvorfor det bedste, ethvert land kan gøre for det internationale samarbejde er at gøre sin egen nation så stærk som muligt. Det positive budskab er, at vi ikke behøver være så bekymrede for, at de globale institutioner bliver svagere, for det er ikke det, der kommer til at afgøre det internationale samfunds skæbne. Lyt med og bliv klogere på hvorfor i denne samtale mellem Rune Lykkeberg og professor og forfatter Dani Rodrik.
For the summer season, All Else Equal will be alternating between new episodes and reruns. In this week’s episode, we’re revisiting our conversation with Ford Foundation Professor of International Political Economy at the John F. Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University, and the author of the book Straight Talk on Trade: Ideas for a Sane World Economy, Dani Rodrik. With President Trump’s tariffs on Canada, Mexico, China, and other countries now in full swing, what consequences from an economic standpoint could the U.S. be facing? And what was the path that led us here? Hosts and finance professors Jonathan Berk and Jules van Binsbergen put the tariffs question to economist and author Dani Rodrik. Rodrik is the Ford Foundation Professor of International Political Economy at the John F. Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University, and the author of the book Straight Talk on Trade: Ideas for a Sane World Economy. Beginning with the historical context and purpose of tariffs, the conversation covers how the political and social dissatisfaction with hyperglobalization opened the door for these extreme tariffs, whether or not they’re an effective tool in modern trade policy, and what alternative strategies exist to rebuild America’s middle class. Find All Else Equal on the web: https://lauder.wharton.upenn.edu/in-the-news/all-else-equal/ All Else Equal: Making Better Decisions Podcast is a production of the UPenn Wharton Lauder Institute through University FM . Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
With President Trump’s tariffs on Canada, Mexico, China, and other countries now in full swing, what consequences from an economic standpoint could the U.S. be facing? And what was the path that led us here? Hosts and finance professors Jonathan Berk and Jules van Binsbergen put the tariffs question to economist and author Dani Rodrik. Rodrik is the Ford Foundation Professor of International Political Economy at the John F. Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University, and the author of the book Straight Talk on Trade: Ideas for a Sane World Economy . Beginning with the historical context and purpose of tariffs, the conversation covers how the political and social dissatisfaction with hyperglobalization opened the door for these extreme tariffs, whether or not they’re an effective tool in modern trade policy, and what alternative strategies exist to rebuild America’s middle class. Find All Else Equal on the web: https://lauder.wharton.upenn.edu/allelse/ All Else Equal: Making Better Decisions Podcast is a production of the UPenn Wharton Lauder Institute through University FM. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Podcast : The Economics Show (LS 48 · TOP 1% what is this? ) Episode : Making sense of Trump's tariffs. With Dani Rodrik Pub date : 2025-02-06 Get Podcast Transcript → powered by Listen411 - fast audio-to-text and summarization Tariffs have historically been an important tool of industrial policy. They were used in the last century by east Asian nations to promote infant industries, and are being used today by the EU to help spur the energy transition. But do Donald Trump’s threats to impose a 25% across-the-board tariff on imports from Canada and Mexico, or his actual 10% tax rise on all imports from China, have any kind of thought-out policy rationale behind them? And should other countries respond in kind? To find out, the FT’s European economics commentator Martin Sandbu speaks to Dani Rodrik, professor of international political economy at Harvard. Rodrik is one of the world’s most acclaimed experts on industrial policy, and someone Martin first got to know as a PhD student in the 1990s. Martin Sandbu writes a regular column for the Financial Times. You can find it here Subscribe on Apple , Spotify , Pocket Casts or wherever you listen. Presented by Martin Sandbu. Produced by Laurence Knight and Edith Rousselot. Manuela Saragosa is the executive producer. Audio mix and original music by Breen Turner. The FT’s head of audio is Cheryl Brumley. Read a transcript of this episode on FT.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Financial Times, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.
Tariffs have historically been an important tool of industrial policy. They were used in the last century by east Asian nations to promote infant industries, and are being used today by the EU to help spur the energy transition. But do Donald Trump’s threats to impose a 25% across-the-board tariff on imports from Canada and Mexico, or his actual 10% tax rise on all imports from China, have any kind of thought-out policy rationale behind them? And should other countries respond in kind? To find out, the FT’s European economics commentator Martin Sandbu speaks to Dani Rodrik, professor of international political economy at Harvard. Rodrik is one of the world’s most acclaimed experts on industrial policy, and someone Martin first got to know as a PhD student in the 1990s. Martin Sandbu writes a regular column for the Financial Times. You can find it here Subscribe on Apple , Spotify , Pocket Casts or wherever you listen. Presented by Martin Sandbu. Produced by Laurence Knight and Edith Rousselot. Manuela Saragosa is the executive producer. Audio mix and original music by Breen Turner. The FT’s head of audio is Cheryl Brumley. Read a transcript of this episode on FT.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In this episode of the Beverage Report Podcast, we interview Professor Dani Rodrik, Ford Foundation Professor of International Political Economy at Harvard's John F. Kennedy School of Government and co-director of the Reimagining the Economy Program at the Kennedy School and of the Economics for Inclusive Prosperity network. Can a new approach to industrial policy and economic nationalism help nations tackle pressing challenges like job creation, climate transition, and economic resilience? Can the United States learn from China’s industrial policies, and how can globalisation adapt to meet today’s complex social and environmental demands? Prof. Dani Rodrik examines East Asia's industrial policy success and its potential replicability in today’s developing economies. He critically assesses the current U.S. approach, comparing it to China’s model of economic transformation. On economic nationalism, Rodrik revisits Alexander Hamilton’s ideas, weighing the promise and risks of America’s renewed focus on domestic industry. His insights offer guidance for countries balancing domestic goals with global interdependence while staying mindful of economic and geopolitical tensions. As the conversation turns to the future, Rodrik offers a fresh view on the declining role of traditional manufacturing and the rising importance of service sectors. On climate change, he champions a pragmatic approach that embraces transformative national policies—such as the U.S. Inflation Reduction Act and China’s renewable energy initiatives—while addressing the complexities of global coordination. Tune into this episode to learn more about Professor Dani’s research and his insights into the Economics of Global Change!
I denne uges udgave taler Rune Lykkeberg med en økonom, der fik ret. Dani Rodrik, der er professor ved John F. Kennedy School of Government på Harvard University, var en af de første fremtrædende økonomer, der kritiserede globaliseringen, mens den stadig var dominerende. I dag er mange stater begyndt at føre netop den slags offensiv industripolitik, som Rodrik længe har argumenteret for – bl.a. i den grønne omstillings navn. Men hvad sker der nu, når Rodrik har fået ret, og bevægelsen fra 'hyperglobalisering' til protektionisme er begyndt at tage fart? Det er hovedemnet for denne uges Langsomme Samtale, hvor den amerikanske økonom blandt andet argumenterer for en industripolitik for servicearbejdet – for det er netop dén slags arbejde, de fleste europæere kan forvente at få i fremtiden, mener han. Hvis vi ønsker at bevæge os fremad, er det for Rodrik afgørende, at vi fortsat evner at udfordre den herskende økonomiske opfattelse. Evner vi til gengæld at træffe de rigtige beslutninger, kan økonomien blive et værktøj for social retfærdighed.
Harvard professor of international political economy Dani Rodrik has long been skeptical of what he calls "hyperglobalization," or an advanced level of interconnectedness between countries and their economies. He first introduced his theory of the "globalization trilemma" in the late 1990s, which states that no country can simultaneously support democracy, national sovereignty, and global economic integration. At the time when he proposed his trilemma, Rodrik was considered an outcast. However, economists and policymakers have come to accept his theory as governments seek to address populism, trade imbalances, and uneven growth through renewed interest in industrial policy, or government efforts to improve the performance of key business sectors. Rodrik joins co-hosts Bethany and Luigi to discuss changing attitudes towards globalization: its distributional effects, how it affects politics, and how it is still searching for a narrative consistent between academic circles and the media. Together, the three of them discuss what role corporate America should play in our world restructured by economic and political populism and if economics is getting too far away from the rest of the social sciences when it comes to shaping industrial policy and creating the jobs of tomorrow. Show Notes:Read Rodrik's co-authored December 2023 paper on the "New Economics of Industrial Policy" Read an ebook by ProMarket on cutting-edge contemporary debates around industrial policy Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.