Alanis Morissette

With a special intro from our series director Callie, give our Alanis episode another listen – through a new lens. Alanis Morissette’s Jagged Little Pill is one of the biggest debut albums of all time – selling 33M copies worldwide and earning Morissette the Grammy for Album of the Year. But you oughta know that just one year prior, Morissette was rejected by every major label, on a plane back home to Ottawa and “deeply depressed.” What changed everything? A spaghetti dinner, a pair of sweatpants and a glittery surfboard. Hope you'll join us. Ask us Anything: Email us: hello@apostrophepodcasts.ca Write to us on socials: @apostrophepod Leave us a voicemail We don’t regret to inform you – you can now listen ad-free! Plus bonus episodes, chats with Sidney, Terry, Allison & more. Subscribe here. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Today, May 1, is the first day of Maternal Mental Health Awareness Month. I’m bringing back this special episode from last year; it’s a listener favorite, one of my favorites, and one of our most popular downloads. I’m deeply honored to share my interview with Grammy Award-winning singer-songwriter, thought leader, and wholeness advocate, Alanis Morissette! She is joined by the president and CEO of Postpartum Support International, Dr. Wendy Davis. Alanis has given much of her time, heart, energy, and effort to raise awareness about maternal mental health. In our conversation, she shares vulnerable and enlightening peeks into her personal experience, and her feelings mirror what many suffering women feel. Alanis found PSI as a resource when she was dealing with perinatal mental health challenges, and she has openly shared about the value of PSI resources while on tour. In addition to being a long-time, powerful presence in the music world, she has become an equally influential advocate for mental health. She has been vocal about experiencing postpartum depression, or “postpartum activity,” as she has referred to it. In our conversation, she shares like never before what her experience was like, how it impacted her life, and how she has found her way to healing. Being in the public eye as a well-known performer has brought a whole other level of pressure and scrutiny to Alanis’ life experiences under the bright–and sometimes stinging–light of celebrity. Dr. Wendy Davis began as a volunteer with PSI in 1997, became the executive director in 2009, and later became the president and CEO. She was drawn to this work after healing from postpartum depression and has become a passionate advocate and leader in the world of perinatal mental health. I’ve been privileged to see Wendy in action at PSI and work closely with her in my role as the Board Chair. Her heart-centered and help-centered approach to leadership has grown PSI into the leading perinatal mental health non-profit in the world today. Show Highlights: ● Alanis’ struggle to balance the people-pleasing life of a celebrity with “the dark swamp of depression” that nobody wanted to see or hear ● Being a high-achieving perfectionist who is self-reliant and autonomous puts a person at a greater risk for postpartum depression. ● Figuring out the archetype of “mom” is a lifelong journey. ● Understanding how the 90s rock and roll scene was a strongly patriarchal environment that left Alanis feeling more isolated and less connected ● Alanis’ experience with anger, rage, panic attacks, and a loss of identity ● Tenderness, love, and empowerment in motherhood ● Our immense gratitude for Alanis’ impact as a fierce advocate and champion of PSI’s work and helpful resources Resources: Connect with Alanis Morissette: Find out more about Alanis’ music and events on her ⁠ Website⁠ ; follow Alanis on social media: ⁠ Instagram⁠ , ⁠ Facebook⁠ , and ⁠ YouTube⁠ Call the National Maternal Mental Health Hotline at 1-833-TLC-MAMA or visit cdph.ca.gov Please find resources in English and Spanish at Postpartum Support International , or by phone/text at 1-800-944-4773. There are many free resources, like online support groups, peer mentors, a specialist provider directory, and perinatal mental health training for therapists, physicians, nurses, doulas, and anyone who wants to be more supportive in offering services. You can also follow PSI on social media:

We have a very special episode to share with you today. I’m deeply honored to host Grammy Award-winning singer-songwriter, thought leader, and wholeness advocate, Alanis Morissette! She is joined by the president and CEO of Postpartum Support International, Dr. Wendy Davis! Alanis found PSI as a resource when she was dealing with perinatal mental health challenges, and she has openly shared about the value of PSI resources while on tour. In addition to being a long-time, powerful presence in the music world, she has become an equally influential advocate for mental health. She has been vocal about experiencing postpartum depression, or “postpartum activity,” as she has referred to it. In our conversation, she shares like never before what her experience was like, how it impacted her life, and how she has found her way to healing. Being in the public eye as a well-known performer has brought a whole other level of pressure and scrutiny to Alanis’ life experiences under the bright–and sometimes stinging–light of celebrity. Dr. Wendy Davis began as a volunteer with PSI in 1997, became the executive director in 2009, and later became the president and CEO. She was drawn to this work after healing from postpartum depression and has become a passionate advocate and leader in the world of perinatal mental health. I’ve been privileged to see Wendy in action at PSI and work closely with her in my role as the Board Chair. Her heart-centered and help-centered approach to leadership has grown PSI into the leading perinatal mental health non-profit in the world today. Show Highlights: Alanis’ struggle to balance the people-pleasing life of a celebrity with “the dark swamp of depression” that nobody wanted to see or hear Being a high-achieving perfectionist who is self-reliant and autonomous puts a person at a greater risk for postpartum depression. Figuring out the archetype of “mom” is a lifelong journey. Motherhood brings profound vulnerability–and ALL the past traumas. Alanis’ perspective: What does a struggling mother need the most? To be nurtured Understanding how the 90s rock and roll scene was a strongly patriarchal environment that left Alanis feeling more isolated and less connected Alanis’ role today as the champion of a sisterhood that protects and micromanages on behalf of women The immense value of someone saying, “I see you.” Alanis’ experience with anger, rage, panic attacks, and a loss of identity Tenderness, love, and empowerment in motherhood The elements of support that were most helpful for Alanis: the appropriate medications, finding community, strong relationships, and finding a space of safety to be “broken” (What didn’t help was someone saying, “You’re not alone.”) What we all want: to make postpartum challenges more visible and to normalize the conversations around them “Wholeness over wellness” Alanis’ thoughts on the beauty and purity of being a mother to her children Our immense gratitude for Alanis’ impact as a fierce advocate and champion of PSI’s work and helpful resources Resources: Connect with Alanis Morissette: Find out more about Alanis’ music and events on her Website ; follow Alanis on social media: Instagram , Facebook , and YouTube Please find resources in English and Spanish at Postpartum Support International , or by phone/text at 1-800-944-4773. There are many free resources, like online support groups, peer mentors, a specialist provider directory, and perinatal mental health training for therapists, physicia

Today’s podcast features Tami Simon’s interview with Alanis Morissette, recorded live at the 2013 Emerging Women Live conference in Boulder, Colorado. Alanis Morissette is a Grammy Award winning singer-songwriter, guitarist, record producer and actress who has sold more than 60 million albums worldwide. Alanis was honored with the EMA Missions in Music Award for her efforts in speaking out against drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. Alanis Morissette has been acting on her strong beliefs for years—and encourages her fans and listeners to do the same. Tami Simon is the founder of Sounds True, a multimedia publishing company dedicated to disseminating spiritual wisdom. Based in Boulder, Colorado, Sounds True has published more than 800 audio, video, music, and book titles along with online courses and events. A two-time winner of the Inc 500 award as one of the fastest growing privately held companies in America, Sounds True is widely recognized as a pioneer in providing life-changing, practical tools that accelerate spiritual awakening and personal transformation. In today’s episode Tami spoke with Alanis about: The balance between Yin and Yang and how this shows up in relationship What that would look like to put the Sacred Feminine in the center of the music industry Listening as an art, and not letting fear stop us from doing what we want to do How Alanis uses the ‘nuggets of terror’ in her journal as seeds for her creative process Alanis’s work with Relationship First and her love of talking with people who are ceiling-less And finally, how she sees the Feminine Movement moving towards Sacred Union Tune in and listen to “The Rock and Roll of Feminine Power” with the Radical Women: Alanis Morisette and Tami Simon. Subscribe to Grace & Fire on iTunes. Transcript: Alanis Morissette: Hi! I want to thank Tami for being up here with me and having a conversation with me. It’s my favorite thing to do, as my friends can attest to, is dialogue and go and back and forth and see what’s actually happening in real time with you, with us. Tami Simon: We want to make our love public. AM: Exactly! [ Laughs ] There’s nothing better than that. TS: Exactly. Making our love public. OK, the primacy of connection. I want to start right there. AM: Let’s go for the jugular. TS: Well, the jugular’s going to come later. AM: There are so many jugulars and so little time. TS: That’s right, exactly. AM: That’s part of why I’m happier here. TS: Your journey to connection, being, at least in my understanding, the most important thing for you in your life. How did you get there? AM: I didn’t get there; I think I started there. I’m a highly sensitive temperament. I’ve become more and more obsessed with self-knowledge because I’ve seen how empowering it and how it enables me to actually have functional intimacy with people. So I’m the girl that uses every tool

Today’s podcast features Tami Simon’s interview with Alanis Morissette, recorded live at the 2013 Emerging Women Live conference in Boulder, Colorado. Alanis Morissette is a Grammy Award winning singer-songwriter, guitarist, record producer and actress who has sold more than 60 million albums worldwide. Alanis was honored with the EMA Missions in Music Award for her efforts in speaking out against drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. Alanis Morissette has been acting on her strong beliefs for years—and encourages her fans and listeners to do the same. Tami Simon is the founder of Sounds True, a multimedia publishing company dedicated to disseminating spiritual wisdom. Based in Boulder, Colorado, Sounds True has published more than 800 audio, video, music, and book titles along with online courses and events. A two-time winner of the Inc 500 award as one of the fastest growing privately held companies in America, Sounds True is widely recognized as a pioneer in providing life-changing, practical tools that accelerate spiritual awakening and personal transformation. In today’s episode Tami spoke with Alanis about: The balance between Yin and Yang and how this shows up in relationship What that would look like to put the Sacred Feminine in the center of the music industry Listening as an art, and not letting fear stop us from doing what we want to do How Alanis uses the ‘nuggets of terror’ in her journal as seeds for her creative process Alanis’s work with Relationship First and her love of talking with people who are ceiling-less And finally, how she sees the Feminine Movement moving towards Sacred Union Tune in and listen to “The Rock and Roll of Feminine Power” with the Radical Women: Alanis Morisette and Tami Simon. Subscribe to Grace & Fire on iTunes. Transcript: Alanis Morissette: Hi! I want to thank Tami for being up here with me and having a conversation with me. It’s my favorite thing to do, as my friends can attest to, is dialogue and go and back and forth and see what’s actually happening in real time with you, with us. Tami Simon: We want to make our love public. AM: Exactly! [ Laughs ] There’s nothing better than that. TS: Exactly. Making our love public. OK, the primacy of connection. I want to start right there. AM: Let’s go for the jugular. TS: Well, the jugular’s going to come later. AM: There are so many jugulars and so little time. TS: That’s right, exactly. AM: That’s part of why I’m happier here. TS: Your journey to connection, being, at least in my understanding, the most important thing for you in your life. How did you get there? AM: I didn’t get there; I think I started there. I’m a highly sensitive temperament. I’ve become more and more obsessed with self-knowledge because I’ve seen how empowering it and how it enables me to actually have functional intimacy with people. So I’m the girl that uses every tool of divination and

In this episode the amazing powerhouse Alanis Morissette and I talk about: Vulnerability Strength with Femininity and balancing the Yin/Yang or Masculine and Feminine essence The effect of success on the creative process How anger can actually build intimacy in relationship And finally, Alanis gives her one piece of advice for women who are on the precipice of their own Emergence. Tune in to listen to my conversation “Creative Intimacy and the Merging of Yin and Yang” with Alanis Morissette. Subscribe to the Emerging Women podcast on iTunes. Transcript: Chantal Pierrat: You’re listening to Grace and Fire , brought to you by Emerging Women. In today’s episode, Alanis and I spoke about vulnerability, strength, and femininity; and balancing the yin yang or masculine and feminine essence; the effect of success on the creative process; how anger can actually build intimacy in relationship; and finally, Alanis gives her one piece of advice for women who are on the precipice of their own emergence. Here is my conversation, “Creative Intimacy and the Merging of Yin and Yang” with the amazing and talented Alanis Morissette. OK, welcome, Alanis. Alanis Morissette: Thank you for having me. CP: This is such an honor. I just want to lay all my cards out on the table here. [ Laughs ] I’m feeling a little star struck, and I’m usually a pretty cool cat, I can hold my own, but at this point I’m feeling incredibly vulnerable. AM: Oh! CP: You’ve just had such an impact on my life, especially as a young woman, and I just want to get it out there and let you know that. I think I’m speaking for every one of our listeners that were born in this time that were influenced by Jagged Little Pill and your other albums—and I want to get into that a little bit, your new album. So there it is. It’s out on the table. So if I fumble— AM: [ Laughs ] And you’re still alive and you’re still safe and everything’s still OK. CP: I’m still OK! That’s right! AM: That’s so sweet, thank you. CP: Well, I thought I’d try and level the playing field a little bit and go in super deep on our first question, and hopefully that will the OK. AM: Yeah, go for the jugular, I live for that. [ Laughs ] CP: [ Laughs ] Great! So, with regards to vulnerability, when do you feel the most vulnerable? When do you feel the most naked? AM: I feel the most vulnerable with my husband, probably. I’m a big Harville Hendrix, Helen LaKelly Hunt, Imago therapy model fan, so I just really see that the degree of commitment and intimacy is commensurate to the degree of healing available. So for me, there’s no bigger commitment than marriage. Definitely motherhood, too, is a near second for obvious reasons. But the commitment of marriage is really vulnerable and really intentional, so there’s the great vulnerability of coming together in that three-phase process, in theory. There’s the infatuation that brings us together, all the chemistry and the animal stuff, and then there’s that disillusionment that turns into that power struggle and conflict. And in the theory, we could segue into this third phase where we actually help heal each other’s wounds and pull each other out of this survival strategy that helped us survive as kids into this wholeness. That’s the theory of it, and now

In this episode the amazing powerhouse Alanis Morissette and I talk about: Vulnerability Strength with Femininity and balancing the Yin/Yang or Masculine and Feminine essence The effect of success on the creative process How anger can actually build intimacy in relationship And finally, Alanis gives her one piece of advice for women who are on the precipice of their own Emergence. Tune in to listen to my conversation “Creative Intimacy and the Merging of Yin and Yang” with Alanis Morissette. Subscribe to the Emerging Women podcast on iTunes. Transcript: Chantal Pierrat: You’re listening to Grace and Fire , brought to you by Emerging Women. In today’s episode, Alanis and I spoke about vulnerability, strength, and femininity; and balancing the yin yang or masculine and feminine essence; the effect of success on the creative process; how anger can actually build intimacy in relationship; and finally, Alanis gives her one piece of advice for women who are on the precipice of their own emergence. Here is my conversation, “Creative Intimacy and the Merging of Yin and Yang” with the amazing and talented Alanis Morissette. OK, welcome, Alanis. Alanis Morissette: Thank you for having me. CP: This is such an honor. I just want to lay all my cards out on the table here. [ Laughs ] I’m feeling a little star struck, and I’m usually a pretty cool cat, I can hold my own, but at this point I’m feeling incredibly vulnerable. AM: Oh! CP: You’ve just had such an impact on my life, especially as a young woman, and I just want to get it out there and let you know that. I think I’m speaking for every one of our listeners that were born in this time that were influenced by Jagged Little Pill and your other albums—and I want to get into that a little bit, your new album. So there it is. It’s out on the table. So if I fumble— AM: [ Laughs ] And you’re still alive and you’re still safe and everything’s still OK. CP: I’m still OK! That’s right! AM: That’s so sweet, thank you. CP: Well, I thought I’d try and level the playing field a little bit and go in super deep on our first question, and hopefully that will the OK. AM: Yeah, go for the jugular, I live for that. [ Laughs ] CP: [ Laughs ] Great! So, with regards to vulnerability, when do you feel the most vulnerable? When do you feel the most naked? AM: I feel the most vulnerable with my husband, probably. I’m a big Harville Hendrix, Helen LaKelly Hunt, Imago therapy model fan, so I just really see that the degree of commitment and intimacy is commensurate to the degree of healing available. So for me, there’s no bigger commitment than marriage. Definitely motherhood, too, is a near second for obvious reasons. But the commitment of marriage is really vulnerable and really intentional, so there’s the great vulnerability of coming together in that three-phase process, in theory. There’s the infatuation that brings us together, all the chemistry and the animal stuff, and then there’s that disillusionment that turns into that power struggle and conflict. And in the theory, we could segue into this third phase where we actually help heal each other’s wounds and pull each other out of this survival strategy that helped us survive as kids into this wholeness. That’s the theory