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In this episode, Daniel and Philipa welcome Dr Tyson Yunkaporta back for an extended yarn on relatedness and making embassy through community. Tyson Yunkaporta is an Aboriginal scholar, educator, maker, researcher, and poet. He is the founder of the Indigenous Knowledge Systems Lab at Deakin University in Melbourne, and the author of two books, the bestselling “Sand Talk: How Indigenous Thinking Can Save the World ” and the recently published “Right Story, Wrong Story: Adventures in Indigenous Thinking ”. Tyson’s work focuses on applying Indigenous methods of inquiry to resolve complex issues and explore global crises.

In this episode, Philipa and Daniel talk about post-activism, border transgressions and making sanctuary with Dr Bayo Akomolafe and Dr Tyson Yunkaporta. Bayo Akomolafe is a widely celebrated international speaker, post-humanist thinker, philosopher, writer, activist and professor of psychology. He is the author of two books, These Wilds Beyond our Fences: Letters to My Daughter on Humanity's Search for Home and We Will Tell our Own Story: The Lions of Africa Speak . Bayo is the Founder of The Emergence Network and and a Global Senior Fellow at the University of California Berkeley. He is also the Inaugural Scholar in Residence at the Aspen Global Leadership Network. Tyson Yunkaporta is an Aboriginal scholar, educator, maker, researcher, and poet. He is the founder of the Indigenous Knowledge Systems Lab at Deakin University in Melbourne, and the author of two books, the bestselling “ Sand Talk: How Indigenous Thinking Can Save the World ” and the recently published “ Right Story, Wrong Story: Adventures in Indigenous Thinking ”. Tyson’s work focuses on applying Indigenous methods of inquiry to resolve complex issues and explore global crises.

This conversation features Tyson Yunkaporta, academic, arts critic, researcher, and member of the Apalech Clan in far north Queensland. Tyson is the author of Sand Talk: How Indigenous Thinking Can Save the World; Right Story, Wrong Story: How to Have Fearless Conversations in Hell; and Snake Talk: How the World’s Ancient Serpent Stories Can Guide Us. Unlike our typical episodes which focus on a topic, here Jenny embraces Tyson's generative cultural practice of yarning. Tyson describes a yarn as "like a conversation but taking a traditional form his people have always used to create and transmit knowledge." Thus here we capture a raw conversation between Jenny and Tyson, touching on topics of whiteness, identity, modes of cognition, justice, and the hero complex. Tyson shares the story behind each of the three books in his trilogy, touching on their relevance for the modern technologically driven era. To stay connected to all things Denizen, you can sign up for our newsletter at www.becomingdenizen.com . There we share our latest content alongside community events, educational opportunities, and announcements from our many partner organizations.

Aboriginal scholar Tyson Yunkaporta joins Raghu to discuss our shared evolution of consciousness and navigating a post-truth world. This week on Mindrolling, Tyson and Raghu have a conversation about: Living in a post-truth world where objective facts lose to emotional/personal appeal How coronavirus nudged us closer to fascism Cultural feedback routes and how America affects Australia Working with Indigenous medicine to connect to the spirit Navigating the grieving process Revolutions of consciousness through the eras Our universal connection and sharing of space with each other Disinformation and the build-up to our recent election Right story versus wrong story and how the truth gets blurred All of our relations, human and non-human About Tyson Yunkaporta: Tyson Yunkaporta is an Aboriginal scholar, founder of the Indigenous Knowledge Systems Lab at Deakin University in Melbourne, and author of Sand Talk and Right Story, Wrong Story: Adventures in Indigenous Thinking . His work focuses on applying Indigenous methods of inquiry to resolve complex issues and explore global crises. Preorder Tyson’s book, Right Story, Wrong Story: How to Have Fearless Conversations in Hell “People are really suffering, and this feels true. This story reflects our feelings of terror and the need to preserve our cultures and communities and resources exclusively.” – Tyson Yunkaporta See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

In this episode, Daniel and Philipa welcome Dr Tyson Yunkaporta back for an extended yarn on relatedness and making embassy through community. Tyson Yunkaporta is an Aboriginal scholar, educator, maker, researcher, and poet. He is the founder of the Indigenous Knowledge Systems Lab at Deakin University in Melbourne, and the author of two books, the bestselling “Sand Talk: How Indigenous Thinking Can Save the World ” and the recently published “Right Story, Wrong Story: Adventures in Indigenous Thinking ”. Tyson’s work focuses on applying Indigenous methods of inquiry to resolve complex issues and explore global crises. Explore links and resources, and find out more at https://www.thersa.org/oceania/regeneration-rising-podcast Join the Re-generation: https://www.thersa.org/regenerative-futures Reduced Fellowship offer: In celebration of the launch of Regeneration Rising, we're offering a special promotion for listeners to join our global community of RSA Fellows. Our Fellowship is a network of over 31,000 innovators, educators, and entrepreneurs committed to finding better ways of thinking, acting, and delivering change. To receive a 25% discount o ff your first year of membership and waived registration fee, visit thersa.org and use the discount code RSAPOD on your application form. Note, cannot be used in conjunction with other discount offers, such as Youth Fellowship. For more information email fellowship@rsa.org.uk.

In this episode, Philipa and Daniel talk about post-activism, border transgressions and making sanctuary with Dr Bayo Akomolafe and Dr Tyson Yunkaporta. Bayo Akomolafe is a widely celebrated international speaker, post-humanist thinker, philosopher, writer, activist and professor of psychology. He is the author of two books, These Wilds Beyond our Fences: Letters to My Daughter on Humanity's Search for Home and We Will Tell our Own Story: The Lions of Africa Speak . Bayo is the Founder of The Emergence Network and and a Global Senior Fellow at the University of California Berkeley. He is also the Inaugural Scholar in Residence at the Aspen Global Leadership Network. Tyson Yunkaporta is an Aboriginal scholar, educator, maker, researcher, and poet. He is the founder of the Indigenous Knowledge Systems Lab at Deakin University in Melbourne, and the author of two books, the bestselling “Sand Talk: How Indigenous Thinking Can Save the World ” and the recently published “Right Story, Wrong Story: Adventures in Indigenous Thinking ”. Tyson’s work focuses on applying Indigenous methods of inquiry to resolve complex issues and explore global crises. Explore links and resources, and find out more at https://www.thersa.org/oceania/regeneration-rising-podcast Join the Re-generation: https://www.thersa.org/regenerative-futures Reduced Fellowship offer: In celebration of the launch of Regeneration Rising, we're offering a special promotion for listeners to join our global community of RSA Fellows. Our Fellowship is a network of over 31,000 innovators, educators, and entrepreneurs committed to finding better ways of thinking, acting, and delivering change. To receive a 25% discount o ff your first year of membership and waived registration fee, visit thersa.org and use the discount code RSAPOD on your application form. Note, cannot be used in conjunction with other discount offers, such as Youth Fellowship. For more information email fellowship@rsa.org.uk.

Ep. 103 (Part 2 of 2) | “What if I lean into the pain and come out the other side and survive it—and what if I take you with me, as the reader, and together we deal with our pain?” asks Tyson Yunkaporta , author, senior research fellow, founder of the Indigenous Knowledge Systems Lab. Tyson embodies this era of metacrisis, actively working with the global issues of our time in his work and in his personal life. His books are paradigm rattling and his whole life is a contribution—bringing forth ways in which Aboriginal Indigenous knowledge can help us, stating the need to find a collective narrative we can all agree on in order to survive, expressing himself with utter authenticity, and pointing out emphatically that each one of us is a web of relations, and that’s what matters most. In his own uniquely raw, unguarded, authentic (and funny) way, Tyson describes his personal challenges with mental health and bipolar disorder and the states of mind he was in when he wrote his two books. Sand Talk: How Indigenous Thinking Can Save the World , was written in just weeks while manic. In dramatic contrast, Right Story, Wrong Story: Adventures in Indigenous Thinking was written while wrestling with depression. Tyson talks about disinformation and how we collectively need to get to the “right story;” about Aboriginal culture and what it means to be living in a colony; the amazing psycho-technologies Aboriginals have to deal with grief; the radicalization and polarization exacerbated by COVID lockdowns in Australia; the similarity between Indigenous knowledge and the scientific method; the sacredness of magic and how this cannot be scaled. Tyson is a window into Aboriginal Indigenous knowledge and a brilliant translator of that wisdom for the rest of us. Recorded September 21, 2023. “Everything you are is a web of relations – you are a relational net.” (For Apple Podcast users, click here to view the complete show notes on the episode page. ) Topics & Time Stamps – Part 1 Introducing artist, academic, author, podcast host, and founder of the Indigenous Knowledge Systems Lab, Tyson Yunkaporta (01:21) Aboriginal & white Australia is really just one world, with Australia squatting on top: living in the overlap space of the Venn diagram (02:50) How we survive: Aboriginal culture has amazing psychotechnologies of mourning and excels at cultivating humor to effectively heal the grief from facing death so often (05:45) How the Aboriginals were indirectly responsible for the first corporation after spearing Dutchmen 500 years ago (06:57) Tyson’s new book, Right Story, Wrong Story spends a lot of time refuting his first book, Sand Talk (09:20) Sand Talk was written in a bipolar/manic episode in 2 weeks flat—it includes a lot of solid Indigenous wisdom as well as propaganda about Western institutions (09:51) Right Story/Wrong Story was written in a state of suicidal depression modeled on Dante’s Inferno (13:14) The effects of COVID and the harshest lockdowns on the planet on Aboriginal Australia & on Tyson (14:11) Right Story/Wrong Story looks at disinformation: how can we collectively get to the right story? (16:10) Tyson explains his mental health challenges and the paradox of being dependent on Western medicine and other Western institutions (17:55) The capacity to laugh is what gets you through (22:16) The neurological capacity of an echidna (22:58) How secular gurus, influencers, are nudging people in horrible directions like fascism, autocracy, exclusionary politics (24:31) People get very depressed reading Sand Talk to where Tyson has to

Ep. 102 (Part 1 of 2) | “What if I lean into the pain and come out the other side and survive it—and what if I take you with me, as the reader, and together we deal with our pain?” asks Tyson Yunkaporta , author, senior research fellow, founder of the Indigenous Knowledge Systems Lab . Tyson embodies this era of metacrisis, actively working with the global issues of our time in his work and in his personal life. His books are paradigm rattling and his whole life is a contribution—bringing forth ways in which Aboriginal Indigenous knowledge can help us, stating the need to find a collective narrative we can all agree on in order to survive, expressing himself with utter authenticity, and pointing out emphatically that each one of us is a web of relations, and that’s what matters most. In his own uniquely raw, unguarded, authentic (and funny) way, Tyson describes his personal challenges with mental health and bipolar disorder and the states of mind he was in when he wrote his two books. Sand Talk: How Indigenous Thinking Can Save the World , was written in just weeks while manic. In dramatic contrast, Right Story, Wrong Story: Adventures in Indigenous Thinking was written while wrestling with depression. Tyson talks about disinformation and how we collectively need to get to the “right story;” about Aboriginal culture and what it means to be living in a colony; the amazing psycho-technologies Aboriginals have to deal with grief; the radicalization and polarization exacerbated by COVID lockdowns in Australia; the similarity between Indigenous knowledge and the scientific method; the sacredness of magic and how this cannot be scaled. Tyson is a window into Aboriginal Indigenous knowledge and a brilliant translator of that wisdom for the rest of us. Recorded September 21, 2023. “If you can get a fellow like me to line up and share a narrative with everybody else and an agreement on what is real and what is not in the world, then I guess there’s going to be hope for everybody.” (For Apple Podcast users, click here to view the complete show notes on the episode page. ) Topics & Time Stamps – Part 1 Introducing artist, academic, author, podcast host, and founder of the Indigenous Knowledge Systems Lab, Tyson Yunkaporta (01:21) Aboriginal & white Australia is really just one world, with Australia squatting on top: living in the overlap space of the Venn diagram (02:50) How we survive: Aboriginal culture has amazing psychotechnologies of mourning and excels at cultivating humor to effectively heal the grief from facing death so often (05:45) How the Aboriginals were indirectly responsible for the first corporation after spearing Dutchmen 500 years ago (06:57) Tyson’s new book, Right Story, Wrong Story spends a lot of time refuting his first book, Sand Talk (09:20) Sand Talk was written in a bipolar/manic episode in 2 weeks flat—it includes a lot of solid Indigenous wisdom as well as propaganda about Western institutions (09:51) Right Story/Wrong Story was written in a state of suicidal depression modeled on Dante’s Inferno (13:14) The effects of COVID and the harshest lockdowns on the planet on Aboriginal Australia & on Tyson (14:11) Right Story/Wrong Story looks at disinformation: how can we collectively get to the right story? (16:10) Tyson explains his mental health challenges and the paradox of being dependent on Western medicine and other Western institutions (17:55)</str

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit thestorymakersinstitute.substack.com This week on The Storymakers Institute, say hello to Dr Tyson Yunkaporta, Aboriginal scholar, founder of the Indigenous Knowledge Systems Lab at Deakin University in Melbourne, and author of Sand Talk: How Indigenous Thinking Can Save the World and Right Story, Wrong Story: Adventures in Indigenous Thinking . As a self-described forensic black fella archaeologist, Tyson uses Indigenous methods of inquiry to dig into complex issues and global crises. In this episode of The Storymakers Institute, Joel Carnegie sits down with Tyson to talk about disinformation in the modern age, and the difference between Right Story and Wrong Story. You might also hear Tyson's son playing in the background. Become a paid subscriber of The Storymakers Institute to unlock full-length episodes, explore the full show archive, and more. If you're not a paid subscriber, you're only getting half the story. Subscribe: thestorymakersinstitute.substack.com/subscribe /

Tyson Yunkaporta is a man that walks between worlds. He is a member of the Apalech Clan of Western Cape York, a renowned academic, and a senior lecturer on Indigenous knowledges. Tyson's book, Sand Talk: How Indigenous Thinking Can Save the World, has provoked all kinds of conversations and collaborations around the world. https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/45449501-sand-talk ... https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/bigideas/tyson-yunkaporta:-looking-at-the-world-through-an-indigneous-le/13168756 ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWXlBIK89rg ... https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tyson-yunkaporta-on-pattern-kinship-and-story-in/ ... https://www.aurukun.qld.gov.au/ ... https://www.cosmiclabyrinth.world/ Want to join an element based game integrating element-based science, self care & empowerment, volunteerism, cultural intelligence and more?!?

Tyson Yunkaporta is an author, academic, educator, Indigenous thinker, maker, arts critic, researcher and poet. He is a member of the Apalech Clan in far north Queensland and has ties in the south. His born-country is Melbourne and adoptive and community/cultural ties all over, from Western NSW to Perth. Tyson carves traditional tools and weapons and also works as a senior lecturer in Indigenous Knowledges at Deakin University in Melbourne. Tyson is the author of Sand Talk: How Indigenous Thinking Can Save the World (2021) a remarkable book about everything from echidnas to evolution, cosmology to cooking, sex and science and spirits to Schrödinger’s cat. In the book, Tyson looks at global systems from an Indigenous perspective and asks how contemporary life diverges from the pattern of creation. How does this affect us? How can we do things differently? Tyson is also an advisor to the Consilience Project , founded by Daniel Schmachtenberger and Zak Stein. Social Links LinkedIn: @tyson-yunkaporta

Psychotherapist Harriet Fraad and Substance Abuse Councillor Ikoi Hiroe have a broad ranging discussion with Tyson Yunkaporta, author of 'Sand Talk: How Indigenous Thinking Can Save the World'. “Tyson Yunkaporta belongs to the Apalech Clan from Western Cape York and is a senior lecturer in Indigenous Knowledges at Deakin University. He has worked extensively with Aboriginal languages and in Indigenous education, and his research activities include oral histories of natural disasters, language, health and cognition. He is a published poet and exhibited artist who practises traditional wood carving.” Email us with feedback, questions, suggestions at itsnotjustinyourhead@gmail.com . Become a patron at patreon.com/itsnotjustinyourhead to gain early access to episodes, our discord server, and monthly reading/discussion groups. Sand Talk: How Indigenous Thinking Can Save the World: https://bookshop.org/books/sand-talk-how-indigenous-thinking-can-save-the-world/9780062975645 ATTENTION! This is a Boring Dystopia/Obligatory 'don't sue us' message: This podcast provides numerous different perspectives and criticisms of the mental health space, however, it should not be considered medical advice. Please consult your medical professional with regards to any health decisions or management.

In this episode, we welcome Dr. Tyson Yunkaporta, an academic, an arts critic, and a researcher who is a member of the Apalech Clan in far north Queensland, Australia. He carves traditional tools and weapons and also works as a senior lecturer in Indigenous Knowledges at Deakin University in Melbourne, Australia. Tyson is the author of Sand Talk: How Indigenous Thinking Can Save The World. He looks at global systems from an Indigenous perspective. He asks how contemporary life diverges from the pattern of creation. How does this affect us? How can we do things differently? In our conversation with Tyson we covered many things we can be inspired by and learn from indigenous cultures. Like yarning, the role elders has as knowledge keepers, what relationship they have to nature, the role that stories and songlines play, and what right and wrong story is.

Tyson Yunkaporta is an Australian academic, arts critic, researcher, and member of the Apalech Clan in far north Queensland. He recently started the Indigenous Knowledge Systems Lab at Deakin University in Melbourne, Australia, which is focused on applying Indigenous thinking to issues that complexity scientists and technologists are currently working on across domains including economics, governance, evolutionary dynamics, cognition, and the environment. Tyson is also the author of the world-view reconfiguring book 'Sand Talk' which served as the basis of our conversation. In the book, Tyson explores our global systems from an Aboriginal perspective and how this viewpoint could help us resolve some of the complex sustainability issues facing our world. In our conversation we cover: The indigenous notion of story and the problem with the narrative at the heart of Western civilisation The value in true diversity, identity, and place Violence and the need for its integration in society Why instead of pursuing growth we should seek 'increase' The need for humanity to retake our place as custodians of the land we're connected to. EPISODE LINKS Tyson's Deakin University page Book: Sand Talk ‍ Tyson's Podcast: The Other Others Video: Why the Indigenous Knowledge Systems Lab matters SUPPORT: Contribute to coffee fund Back me on Ideamarket Rate Talk of Today on Apple Podcasts PODCAST INFO Podcast Website Follow Sam on Twitter Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/talk-of-today/donations

On today’s episode we’re talking with Tyson Yunkaporta, author of “Sand Talk: How Indigenous Thinking Can Save the World.” Tyson is a senior lecturer in Indigenous Knowledges at Deakin University in Melbourne and is a member of the Apalech clan in Queensland, Australia. "Sand Talk" explains how the teachings of aboriginal culture can help us imagine a way to a sustainable future by emphasizing community and connection over individualism and fragmentation, and by cultivating respect for the land. In this episode, we talk about how even when Western cultures seek out indigenous knowledges, they lack a framework to be able to understand what they're being offered. Indigenous thinking, according to Tyson, is relational. It requires long term connection and commitment to the community and the land. It’s not just about using didgeridoos, or smudge sticks, (or wands and cauldrons as the case may be), it's about engaging with a larger matrix of connectivity that is the TRUE essence of indigenous thinking and way of life.. We're really excited to share this episode with you! Thanks for tuning in! References in this episode include: Tyson Yunkaporta, "Sand Talk: How Indigenous Thinking Can Save the World." Tucker Carlson Had A Witch On His Show, It Did Not Go As Planned, https://www.huffpost.com/entry/tucker-carlson-witch-interview_n_59c1c14ce4b0186c2206b97f Michael M Hughes, " A Spell To Bind Donald Trump and All Those That Aid And Abet Him." ********************************* REGISTER FOR AMANDA'S MOON RITUAL ON FRIDAY 7/23/21 6:30pm PST This Aquarius Full Moon in Leo Season is the Visionary Moon, the Claiming Moon, and the Herb Moon. Leo season asks us to show up with a heart full of courage. Aquarius is the sign of the visionary. This full moon is the time to show up with courage and envision the life you want; not just for yourself, but for all beings. Ritual is on Zoom and by donation - 7/23/21 6:30pm PST. To register CLICK HERE. ********************************* CURRENT WORKSHOPS TEMPERANCE : Potions, Offerings, & Rituals of Transformation : In this workshop you will learn to use ordinary substances to make big magic in your everyday life. Cooking magic, cleaning magic, love magic, and more. You'll learn how to whip up a spell using the things you have in your kitchen, create offerings for your ancestors, and a clearing bath that will restore your soul. Click here to find out more. To become a Between the Worlds Weird Circle Subscriber, click here. ********************************** Learn More About Our Guest Tyson Yunkaporta Tyson Yunkaporta is an academic, an arts critic, and a researcher who is a member of the Apalech Clan in far north Queensland. He carves traditional tools and weapons and also works as a senior lecturer in Indigenous Knowledges at Deakin University in Melbourne. He lives in Melbourne and his book "Sand Talk: How Indigenous Thinking Can Save The World," is out now via Harper Collins. Buy his book "Sand Talk" via his publisher page: htt

Tyson Yunkaporta is an academic, an arts critic, and a researcher who is a member of the Apalech Clan in far north Queensland. He carves traditional tools and weapons and also works as a senior lecturer in Indigenous Knowledges at Deakin University in Melbourne. He lives in Melbourne. In this conversation, Tyson and I talk about: how indigenous thinking can change the world relationship and regeneration belonging to place - and how we can do so even when we move around trusting in co-creation - yarning and sand talk the shortcomings of the education system and so much more. Buy the book: https://www.booktopia.com.au/sand-talk-tyson-yunkaporta/book/9781925773996.html?source=pla&gclid=CjwKCAjw8cCGBhB6EiwAgORey6eJi420_QE8-h8F-haHKVHhsfcO2KgCPdlsEyiXFUIUSm2-xITAZBoCgogQAvD_BwE Enrol in the Regenerative Ways Retreat: www.megberryman.com/events

Are you curious about the memory techniques used in the ancient world? I’m talking about aboriginal memory techniques in Australia. But also a lot more. For example, it’s possible to learn about all sorts of indigenous tools for learning and retaining information used by people around the world. If this sounds interesting to you, you’re in luck. In this episode of the Magnetic Memory Method Podcast, I sat down with Tyson Yunkaporta, an author and educator who has shared these techniques with many groups of people. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_–IAZz410 Aboriginal Philosophy and Memory Techniques Tyson’s a huge fan of both the Aboriginal memory techniques and the Memory Palace , so I think you’re going to love how we discuss all the techniques we go over in this discussion. As the author of Sand Talk: How Indigenous Thinking Can Save The World , Dr. Yunkaporta is an incredible teacher. I found this book compelling, useful and the main mnemonic device taught in the book is an obvious win for social change and healing global issues. As Tyson expresses in this interview, the time for “memory wars” (and all kinds of other wars) is over. We simply don’t have time for them anymore. And to help you be part of the solution in your culture, you need to widen your context and bring that back into your community. Here are just some of the memory techniques you’ll discover in this discussion: Real places and objects Relational Haptic connections Riddles and wordplay The Night sky Songlines Place and maps of place Symbols and images Rhythm and rhyme Repetition</

This week, a mind-expanding walkabout through the realms of body, mind, and spirit, with Indigenous Australian author, scholar, arts critic, and martial artist Tyson Yunkaporta. Tyson is a Senior Lecturer in Indigenous Knowledge at Deakin University, and author of the extraordinary book Sand Talk: How Indigenous Knowledge Can Save the World . Originally aired on Tyson's own podcast, The Other Others, this episode delves into the confluence of Systema and Indigenous thinking, including: Physical practices to enhance thinking and awareness Blurring the boundaries between self and other Distributed cognition, and how we can use it Reconnecting with place, finding right story, and living a relational existence Mind-blowing stuff, for those interested in such things. For a better context and understanding of half the stuff we "yarn" about here, be sure to purchase Sand Talk in hardcopy or audiobook format (narrated by the author). For more mind-expanding (and unapologetically triggering) yarns, check out Tyson's own podcast, The Other Others , on Spotify.

This week, we switch hemispheres and head Down Under for an out-of-the-ordinary conversation with the Australian indigenous writer, academic and traditional wood carver Tyson Yunkaporta. Tyson reflects on the dominant global order behind our current crises and the havoc it's wreaking upon animals and all life. We're caught up in an unstoppable race, he argues. Will man-made economic systems or the planet's natural ones collapse first? And can we humans recover our rightful role as custodians of the Earth's sentient beings and all creation? To explore even more deeply, you might want to pick up a copy of Tyson's paradigm-shifting book, "Sand Talk: How Indigenous Thinking Can Save the World," published by HarperOne, 2020. Intro music: "The Spaces Between" by Scott Buckley. Interstitial music: "Rendezvous with Rama" by Stellardrone. Photo: James Henry.

Tyson Yunkaporta is an academic, an arts critic, and a researcher who is a member of the Apalech Clan in far north Queensland. He carves traditional tools and weapons and also works as a senior lecturer in Indigenous Knowledges at Deakin University in Melbourne. He lives in Melbourne. Tyson Yunkaporta is the author of Sand Talk: Changing the World Through Indigenous Knowledge. Admittedly cheeky, Tyson's goal with the book is to provoke thought and encourage conversations. In my meandering podcast with him, we end up on a virtual walkabout that weaves in and out of the book topics with our own stories and commentary. I came across his book because of a Shamanism course I am taking and I devoured it in one night! The book is as engaging as Tyson is in this conversation.

To start 2021 we chatted with Tyson Yunkaporta. Tyson is an indigenous activist, thinker and academic in Australia who challenges us all to think differently about the way we live and work. Indigenous communities around the world have lived in sync with the land and with each other for generations and these approaches to thinking and knowledge are profoundly different to what we might be used to. In this conversation we explore these ideas, how we can be more in tune with our surroundings and understand the power of simple and complex systems. Academia and the production of knowledge are key parts of the jigsaw of how the world works and we explore with Tyson how Indigenous thinking can change academia and what that means for knowledge. Prepare to be challenged, we certainly were! Tyson's book can be found here: https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/45449501-sand-talk Follow us on Twitter @Divrespod and do let us know what you think. Ideas for future episodes welcome too. Thanks for listening! Thanks for listening. Please share, rate, review and follow us on Twitter @Divrespod . If you're interested in our work with diversity and internationalisation in research, please visit www.diversiunity.com .