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Phil and Emily are joined by journalist and author Josephine Riesman to continue their Richard Kelly Reichardt mini-series with the magnificent disaster that is Southland Tales (2006). And there is no better guest for it: Josie wrote the definitive deep-dive on this movie and once spent three hours walking Venice Beach interviewing Richard Kelly himself. Set in an alternate 2008 where nuclear attacks on Texas have tipped America into a surveillance-state apocalypse, Southland Tales unleashes Dwayne Johnson, Sarah Michelle Gellar, Justin Timberlake, and a cast of SNL alumni across a sprawling, end-of-days Los Angeles on the Fourth of July. It premiered at Cannes as an unfinished cut on DVD, got booed into oblivion, made a legendary $374,000 against a $17 million budget, and then quietly became the cult object that fans swear is more true than the reality we actually got.. The gang digs into why a movie this incoherent is also this irresistible. Emily makes her case that it is what you would get if Philip K. Dick novelized Robert Altman's Nashville, while Phil counters with "Magnolia with a head injury." Josie reveals what Kelly told her about that surreal Justin Timberlake lip-sync to The Killers, the tie-in graphic novels, the Cannes catastrophe, and why he has a reason for every baffling choice, even the ones that never made the final cut. Plus its eerie kinship with Children of Men and The Handmaid's Tale, and the thin line between satire and prophecy. Misunderstood masterpiece or beautiful trainwreck? On America's 250th birthday, it might be the only movie that fits. This is the way the world ends. Follow the show & guests: Podcast Like It's... - https://www.instagram.com/podcastlikeits Phil Iscove - https://www.instagram.com/pmiscove Emily St. James - https://www.instagram.com/emilystjams Josephine Riesman - https://www.instagram.com/josie.zone 💜 Patreon (bonus episodes & video): http://patreon.com/Podcastlikeits Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This is our last unedited bonus before we're back with a brand new episode next week! This week, we bring you the entirety of my conversation with Josephine Riesman who authored Ringmaster: Vince McMahon and the Unmaking of America. We talked about the parallels between wrestling and modern politics and had a blast doing it. Please enjoy and stay tuned for a new episode next week. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week the boys dive deep into food delivery and the political, economic, and technological forces that drive it…and the discourse around it. We’re also lucky to be joined by Josie Riesman, the author of the definitive book on wrestling promoter Vince McMahon. She helps us understand the role that Hulk Hogan specifically and wrestling played in shaping our politics and culture. You can follow her on Bluesky @josie.zone. Her work can also be found at josie.zone including Ringmaster: Vince McMahon And The Unmaking of America. Please note George’s audio sucks for this one and we’re really sorry about that but Ed has promised us the mics are in the mail. Chapters: 0:00 Donkey Kong & Podcast Intro 4:11 Fast Food Delivery & Jason Steen 16:44 Jason Steen's Character & System 23:43 App Addiction & DoorDash Economics 39:04 Health, Cooking & Human Connection 50:14 Guest Josie Reisman: Wrestling History 1:09:47 Hulk Hogan: Controversies & Gawker 1:18:10 Guest Outro & Farewell Chapters: 0:00 Donkey Kong & Podcast Intro 4:11 Fast Food Delivery & Jason Steen 16:44 Jason Steen's Character & System 23:43 App Addiction & DoorDash Economics 39:04 Health, Cooking & Human Connection 50:14 Guest Josie Reisman: Wrestling History 1:09:47 Hulk Hogan: Controversies & Gawker 1:18:10 Guest Outro & Farewell