Joe Weisenthal

(01:25) - Jassy's Shareholder Letter (23:24) - AI in CyberSecurity (27:56) - 𝕏 Timeline Reactions (40:41) - Saagar Enjeti, an American journalist and political commentator, co-hosts the independent news program "Breaking Points" alongside Krystal Ball. In the conversation, he discusses the significant capital expenditures by companies like Amazon on data centers, highlighting the resulting community pushback due to concerns over energy consumption, environmental impact, and displacement of residents. Enjeti emphasizes the need for a democratic process in approving such projects, advocating for transparency and local input to address the growing animosity toward data center developments. (01:01:09) - Joe Weisenthal, born September 2, 1980, in Detroit, Michigan, is an American journalist and television presenter, currently serving as the executive editor of news for Bloomberg's digital brands and co-host of the "Odd Lots" podcast. In the conversation, he discusses the New York Times' investigation into the identity of Bitcoin's creator, Satoshi Nakamoto, focusing on the claim that Adam Back is Nakamoto. Weisenthal expresses skepticism about the evidence presented, noting that many early cypherpunks shared similar ideas on privacy and internet architecture, which could explain the overlap in writing and ideology. (01:24:06) - Andrew Dai is the co-founder of Elorian, an AI company building multimodal reasoning models that can understand and interpret the physical world across text, images, and video. He focuses on advancing visual reasoning as a step toward more general intelligence. (01:31:56) - Kesava Kirupa Dinakaran, co-founder and CEO of Luminai, discusses how his company helps large health systems automate operations and back-office tasks, such as processing patient referrals, by leveraging advanced AI models to handle traditionally manual processes like faxed documents. He highlights the importance of a deep, forward-deployed approach to understand the nuanced workflows of healthcare institutions, noting that while on-premises solutions are offered for data security, most clients prefer cloud-based deployments. Kesava also mentions the significant growth of unstructured data in healthcare and announces Luminai's recent $38 million Series B funding led by Sequoia India, General Catalyst, and Y Combinator. (01:40:58) - Brian Manning, CEO and co-founder of Xona Space Systems, discusses the launch of their new satellite factory in San Francisco, following a recent $170 million Series C funding round. Xona is developing a network of small satellites positioned 20 times closer to Earth than existing GPS systems, aiming to provide highly accurate and reliable navigation services. Originally focused on supporting autonomous vehicles, the company has expanded its mission to enhance performance for the over 7 billion GPS devices worldwide. (01:53:14) - Cobi Blumenfeld-Gantz is the CEO and co-founder of Chapter, an AI-powered Medicare navigation platform that assists seniors in selecting appropriate health coverage. In the conversation, he discusses the challenges seniors face with Medicare enrollment, including the complexity of choosing from over 24,000 plans and the prevalence of deceptive marketing practices. He emphasizes the need for better data transparency and the role of technology in simplifying the Medicare selection process. (01:59:25) - Changpeng Zhao, known as CZ, is the founder and former CEO of Binance, the world's largest cryptocurrency exchange. In the conversation, he discusses his motivations for writing a book to share his personal story and correct misconceptions about himself, Binance, and the crypto industry. He also addresses the evolving regulatory landscape in the U.S., emphasizing the need for clarity and balance between oversight and privacy in the crypto space. (02:21:15) - Tal Hoffman, co-f

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.thebulwark.com A war of choice may evolve into a war of necessity because the brains at the White House apparently did not anticipate that Iran—in response to the bombing campaign—would shut down the Strait of Hormuz, which the global economy depends on being open. It's also not a good look for the U.S. to be got by a power like Iran because China is watching. Plus, how the war is impacting the supply chain, the markets may be underpricing oil because traders keep banking on Trump to do his usual TACO, and Israel acting like an illiberal Middle Eastern regime is creating a disconnect with American Jews. The Atlantic’ s Jeffrey Goldberg and Bloomberg’s Joe Weisenthal join Tim Miller. show notes * Where to catch Tim's Tuesday livestream at 8:30pm ET * Jeffrey on Signalgate and Hegseth one year later * The Atlantic 's McKay Coppins on America's sports betting boom * Joe's "Odd Lots" podcast As always: Watch, listen, hit the like button or leave a comment . We want to hear from you. Ad-free editions of The Bulwark Podcast are available exclusively for Bulwark+ members. The Bulwark Podcast with Tim Miller is available wherever you get podcasts and on YouTube. New shows drop each weekday afternoon. If you like the show, leave a comment and ⭐⭐⭐⭐ wherever you listen. Add The Bulwark Podcast to your player of choice, here .

A war of choice may evolve into a war of necessity because the brains at the White House apparently did not anticipate that Iran—in response to the bombing campaign—would shut down the Strait of Hormuz, which the global economy depends on being open. It's also not a good look for the U.S. to be got by a power like Iran because China is watching. Plus, how the war is impacting the supply chain, the markets may be underpricing oil because traders keep banking on Trump to do his usual TACO, and Israel acting like an illiberal Middle Eastern regime is creating a disconnect with American Jews. The Atlantic’ s Jeffrey Goldberg and Bloomberg’s Joe Weisenthal join Tim Miller. show notes Where to catch Tim's Tuesday livestream at 8:30pm ET Jeffrey on Signalgate and Hegseth one year later The Atlantic 's McKay Coppins on America's sports betting boom Joe's "Odd Lots" podcast Go to https://zbiotics.com/THEBULWARK and use THEBULWARK at checkout for 15% off any first time orders of ZBiotics probiotics. Get 20% off your DeleteMe plan when you go to joindeleteme.com/BULWARK and use promo code BULWARK at checkout.

If Joe Weisenthal didn’t exist, the internet would have to invent him. Because Joe Weisenthal is built for the internet — more specifically, an internet personality: Knows a lot, curious about even more, often right, happy to be wrong, always has something to say about anything. That persona/personality did wonders for Joe in the early days of Business Insider — which, not coincidentally, were also the early days of Twitter, where Joe really took off. Then he took his talents to Bloomberg, and since then has turned himself into a successful business/finance podcaster: Along with co-host Tracy Alloway, they’ve turned “Odd Lots” from a project no one at Bloomberg paid attention to into a genuine hit. Discussed here: Why Joe is still at Bloomberg, instead of doing the indie media route that could make him a gazillion dollars; what makes a perfect podcast guest; and Joe’s semi-secret country music ambitions. Plus, something smart you can say about tariffs, if you’re in a place where people are talking about tariffs. Bonus content! This pod also includes a conversation with filmmaker Adam Bhala Lough, who wanted to make a movie about OpenAI’s Sam Altman, but couldn’t. So he made a fake Sam Altman instead, which is why his movie is called Deepfaking Sam Altman . Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Sign up for TBPN’s daily newsletter at TBPN.com (02:40) - How Davos Makes Half a Billion in Revenue (10:42) - 𝕏 Timeline Reactions (31:18) - Private-Credit Investors Cash Out (34:20) - 𝕏 Timeline Reactions (45:08) - Apple to Rebuild Siri (59:51) - Keller Rinaudo Cliffton, CEO and co-founder of Zipline, announced the company's recent $600 million funding round, elevating its valuation to $7.6 billion, and plans to expand autonomous delivery services to Houston and Phoenix in early 2026. He highlighted Zipline's rapid growth, with U.S. deliveries increasing approximately 15% week over week for the past seven months, and the company's milestone of surpassing two million commercial deliveries. Cliffton also discussed the development of Zipline's next-generation aircraft, EV3, which offers significant performance improvements at half the cost, and emphasized the company's commitment to integrating autonomous logistics into everyday life across diverse climates and urban environments. (01:17:10) - Jake Cooper, CEO of Railway, a software deployment platform, discusses the company's recent $100 million funding round aimed at building data centers and simplifying software development. He highlights the evolving role of developers, emphasizing that advancements are enabling a broader range of individuals, including designers and managers, to ship code efficiently. Cooper also shares insights on internal organizational changes, noting that enhanced tools have significantly accelerated project development, leading to what he terms "Agent Speed" within the company. (01:33:31) - Joe Weisenthal is an American journalist and podcaster, serving as the executive editor of news for Bloomberg's digital brands and co-hosting the "Odd Lots" podcast. In the conversation, he discusses Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney's speech at the World Economic Forum in Davos, where Carney declared the old world order is "not coming back" and emphasized that "middle powers must act together because if we're not at the table, we're on the menu." Weisenthal also explores China's economic strategies, noting their ambition to move beyond being the world's factory by increasing domestic consumption and addressing global concerns about their manufacturing dominance. (02:01:47) - Coldhealing is a TikTok anthropologist and self-described "dark statistician" based in New York City. In the conversation, he discusses his approach to curating and sharing emerging internet culture, particularly on TikTok, emphasizing the importance of documenting online trends that traditional institutions may overlook. He also reflects on the evolution of "Day in the Life" videos, noting a shift from aspirational portrayals to more mundane representations, and shares his experiences with generative AI content, observing its growing presence on platforms like Instagram Reels and its varying reception among audiences. (02:23:37) - Capital One Goes Big on Brex (02:27:30) - Cathie Wood, founder and CEO of ARK Invest, is renowned for her focus on disruptive innovation in sectors like AI, robotics, and blockchain. In the conversation, she emphasizes AI as a major catalyst for innovation, discusses ARK's unique research approach centered on converging technologies, and highlights the importance of proactive AI integration for enterprises to remain competitive. (03:03:29) - Jon Caramanica, a pop music critic at The New York Times and co-host of the "Popcast" podcast, discusses the integration of AI in music production, noting its increasing use in songwriting and vocal processing. He draws parallels to historical technological shifts in music, such as Bob Dylan's transition to electric guitar and the adoption of Auto-Tune, suggesting that initial resistance to AI may diminish over time. Caramanica also expresses concern that AI-generated music could lead t

A festivus special! Joe Weisenthal, host of Odd Lots and my podcast host alter ego, come to celebrate his ten years of hosting, reflect on the medium and China. 01:21 following your podcasting bliss 21:19 handling guests 26:06 china 46:04 journalism integrity 49:24 parenting in nyc Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

(00:28) - H200 Exports Resume (07:20) - China-Linked AI Chip Smuggling (14:43) - Joe Weisenthal, born September 2, 1980, in Detroit, Michigan, is an American journalist and television presenter, currently serving as the executive editor of news for Bloomberg's digital brands and co-host of the "Odd Lots" podcast. In the conversation, he discusses the Federal Reserve's recent 25 basis point interest rate cut, highlighting internal divisions within the Fed's rate-setting committee, with three members dissenting—two favoring no change and one advocating a deeper cut. He also examines the potential impact of future rate cuts on long-term yields, noting that aggressive short-term cuts could lead to higher long-term rates due to inflation expectations, which may not provide the desired economic stimulus. (34:20) - Warner Deal Drags (43:29) - Meta AI Chafe Gate (59:04) - Ben Smith is a veteran American journalist and media executive. He is the co-founder and editor-in-chief of Semafor, the global news platform launched in 2022. Previously, he was the media columnist for The New York Times (2020–2022) and before that the founding editor-in-chief of BuzzFeed News (2012–2020). Earlier in his career he covered politics for Politico and other outlets, helping pioneer digital-era political journalism. (01:40:43) - Matt Hicks, who became Red Hat's President and CEO in July 2022, discusses the company's evolution from offering only Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL) to a diverse portfolio including OpenShift, Ansible, and Red Hat AI. He emphasizes Red Hat's focus on smaller, open-source AI models that are more manageable and cost-effective for enterprises compared to larger frontier models. Hicks also highlights the importance of building authentic open-source communities and the value of long-term commitment within a company, drawing from his own 20-year tenure at Red Hat. (02:00:58) - Stephen Schwartz, CEO of WAP, discusses the company's rapid growth, noting that to achieve a 50% increase in business, they must add over $1 billion in earnings annually. He highlights their aggressive international expansion and strategic partnerships, including a recent collaboration with Micro One to enhance their platform's capabilities. Schwartz also emphasizes the company's focus on integrating AI throughout their platform to simplify operations and support users in starting businesses more efficiently. (02:20:46) - 𝕏 Timeline Reactions (02:29:02) - Saam Motamedi, a General Partner at Greylock Partners, focuses on early-stage investments in enterprise software, particularly in AI, cybersecurity, and data infrastructure. He discusses the current venture capital landscape, noting a shift towards a smaller number of firms concentrating on long-term partnerships with founders, emphasizing the importance of enduring commitment in the industry. Motamedi also highlights the transformative impact of AI on enterprise software, suggesting that new pricing models, interfaces, and data structures are creating opportunities for startups to disrupt established companies. (02:41:08) - Nicholas Kelez, CEO and CTO of xLight, discusses the company's mission to develop the world's most powerful free-electron lasers to revolutionize semiconductor manufacturing by enhancing lithography processes, making chip production more efficient and cost-effective. He highlights the strategic partnership with former Intel CEO Pat Gelsinger, who has significantly contributed to xLight's growth and leadership development. Kelez also emphasizes the importance of the recent $150 million Letter of Intent with the U.S. Department of Commerce, which will accelerate the development of their prototype and advance their first commercial products. (02:48:17) - Antoine Tessier, CEO of duPont REGISTRY Group, discusses the launch of duPont REGISTRY Live, an online auction platfo

Here’s a preview of another podcast we enjoy, Odd Lots with Tracy Alloway and Joe Weisenthal . Odd Lots has some of the most interesting conversations in finance, markets and economics, and every episode has the “perfect guest” – from truckers and bakers to portfolio managers and CEOs. As longtime financial journalists with a wide breadth of experience, Joe and Tracy dive into everything from poultry farming to AI valuations, as well as big questions about manufacturing, geopolitics, central banking and much more. New episodes drop on Mondays, Thursdays and Fridays wherever you get your podcasts. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

(01:53) - 𝕏 Timeline Reactions (13:14) - Nvidia Responds to TPU Sales (22:15) - Trump Launches Genesis (25:40) - Trait-Based Embryo Selection Ethics Breakdown (45:17) - Cremieux, a critic of Nucleus Genomics' embryo selection product, discusses the company's misleading claims about their technology's capabilities, particularly in predicting complex traits like intelligence and appearance. He highlights the scientific implausibility of their assertions, noting that their methods cannot reliably predict such traits, and expresses concern over the ethical implications of offering parents a false sense of control over their future children's genetics. Cremieux also points out the potential harm in promoting a product that lacks scientific validation, emphasizing the need for transparency and accuracy in genetic testing services. (01:05:01) - Kian Sadeghi, founder and CEO of Nucleus, a company specializing in consumer genetic testing and analysis, discusses the transparency and accessibility of Nucleus's scientific models, emphasizing that their science is public and available for independent evaluation. He addresses concerns about the authenticity of customer reviews, explaining that due to HIPAA regulations, real patient names and images cannot be disclosed, and acknowledges the need to update their website to clarify the use of anonymized information. Sadeghi also highlights the evolving nature of genetic models, noting that updates are part of their commitment to providing accurate and up-to-date information to patients. (01:28:58) - Joe Weisenthal, born September 2, 1980, in Detroit, Michigan, is an American journalist and television presenter, currently serving as the executive editor of news for Bloomberg's digital brands and co-host of the "Odd Lots" podcast. In the conversation, he discusses the prolonged timeline before AI and robotics significantly impact sectors like elder care, referencing Honda's Asimo robot's initial promise to assist the elderly. He also addresses the shift in tech financing from venture capital to substantial debt, highlighting concerns over managing this debt and the implications of credit default swaps on major companies like Oracle. Additionally, Weisenthal critiques Nvidia's public responses to competitors, suggesting that confident companies typically avoid commenting on rivals, and reflects on Nvidia's rapid ascent from a successful chipmaker to one of the world's largest companies. (01:59:49) - Michael Kratsios, the 13th Director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, discusses the Genesis Mission, a national initiative launched by President Trump to accelerate scientific discovery through artificial intelligence. He emphasizes the collaboration between national laboratories, universities, and tech companies to create a centralized digital platform that leverages federal scientific datasets, aiming to automate experiment design and significantly shorten discovery timelines. (02:26:28) - Sebastian Siemiatkowski, co-founder and CEO of Klarna, discusses the company's launch of KlarnaUSD, a U.S. dollar-backed stablecoin, marking a significant shift from his previous skepticism toward cryptocurrencies. He highlights that KlarnaUSD aims to reduce costs and increase efficiency in cross-border payments by leveraging the Tempo blockchain developed by Stripe and Paradigm. Siemiatkowski emphasizes that this initiative reflects Klarna's commitment to innovation and its ambition to challenge traditional payment networks by offering faster and more affordable services to consumers and merchants. (02:38:09) - David Faugno, CEO of 1Password, discusses the company's growth to over $400 million in annual recurring revenue, with nearly 80% of business coming from enterprise customers. He highlights 1Password's initiatives in AI integration, including partnerships with Perplexity's Come

Right now much of the US economy rests on AI’s future. In fact, Odd Lots cohost Joe Weisenthal says the rest of the economy that isn't tech or AI related is creaking along. He breaks down for Katie why AI’s impact on finance goes beyond billion-dollar investments. Follow the UnCanny Valley feed for WIRED’s best and brightest as they provide an insider analysis of the overlap between tech and politics, from the influence of Silicon Valley on the Trump administration to how inaccurate information from artificial intelligence (AI) chatbots fanned the fire on social protests. Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

(01:34) - Timeline (13:35) - Trump's Tech Dinner (22:19) - Tesla's $1T Pay Package (36:25) - OpenAI Mass Producing Chips with Broadcom (45:26) - Ellen in the Mansion Section (53:23) - Joe Weisenthal, born September 2, 1980, in Detroit, Michigan, is an American journalist and financial expert. He serves as the executive editor of news for Bloomberg's digital brands, co-anchors Bloomberg Television's "What’d You Miss?", and co-hosts the "Odd Lots" podcast. In the conversation, Weisenthal discusses the recent jobs report, noting that the number was below expectations and highlighting concerns about the labor market's state. He mentions that excluding health care, the economy has been shedding jobs, with manufacturing employment down 78,000 so far this year. Weisenthal also touches on the impact of AI investments on employment, suggesting that while data centers may not add significantly to employment, the promise of AI could lead to job destruction rather than growth. (01:25:15) - 2019 Seal Team 6 Mission Gone Wrong (01:28:46) - Washington Post Now on Substack (01:31:00) - Timeline (01:53:42) - Giorgio Armani Passes Away at 91 (01:59:25) - Jason Droege, a seasoned technology executive and entrepreneur, is the Interim CEO of Scale AI, having previously founded Uber Eats and served as a Venture Partner at Benchmark. In the conversation, Droege discusses his extensive experience in the tech industry, including his role in launching and scaling Uber Eats to a $20 billion annual gross merchandise volume, and his current focus on expanding Scale AI's applications and services business to deliver customized AI solutions for enterprises and governments. (02:23:05) - Dave Marra, CEO of Rivet Industries, discusses the company's mission to serve the half-billion workers in the Western world who are underserved by big tech, focusing on those in demanding environments like flight lines, factories, and battlefields. He highlights Rivet's recent $195 million contract with the U.S. Army to develop next-generation soldier mission command systems, emphasizing the importance of comfort, ruggedization, compliance, and utility in their products. Marra also notes that advancements in technology have now made it feasible to create such devices, which were not possible five years ago, and underscores the significance of dual-use applications for both military and commercial markets. (02:37:15) - Mert Mumtaz, co-founder and CEO of Helius—a developer platform for the Solana blockchain—discusses the launch of Tempo, a new Layer 1 blockchain focused on payments, developed by Stripe and Paradigm. He highlights the controversies surrounding Tempo, including its positioning as an L1 rather than an L2, and the challenges of maintaining a payments-only chain in a permissionless environment. Mumtaz also addresses the potential for Tempo to become permissionless in the future and the implications of such a transition. (02:53:49) - Harish Abbott, co-founder and CEO of Augment, announced the company's $85 million Series A funding round, led by Redpoint Ventures, to enhance their AI logistics assistant, Augie. He discussed Augie's role in automating tasks like quoting, dispatching, tracking, and billing, aiming to streamline operations in the fragmented $900 billion freight industry. Abbott also reflected on lessons from his previous venture, Deliverr, emphasizing the importance of customer focus and operational efficiency in scaling Augment's solutions. (02:59:58) - Tuhin Srivastava, CEO of BaseTen, an AI infrastructure company, announced the company's recent $150 million funding round. He discussed BaseTen's focus on simplifying AI inference for businesses by managing the complexities of deploying and scaling machine learning models, allowing companies to concentrate on their unique applications. Srivastava also

(00:58) - Dow Jumps as Powell Signals Rate Cut (05:46) - Crusoe in Talks for $10B Valuation (15:24) - Inside America's Most Expensive Home (35:46) - Timeline (01:13:47) - Joe Weisenthal, a financial journalist and co-host of Bloomberg's "Odd Lots" podcast, discusses the Federal Reserve's recent policy signals, noting that Chair Jerome Powell's comments suggest a dovish stance, which has positively impacted markets and cryptocurrencies. He highlights the debate over recent labor market data revisions, suggesting that while some view them as signs of economic slowdown, others believe they reflect temporary uncertainties, with potential for acceleration as businesses gain clarity. Weisenthal also touches on the limited role of AI in current economic discussions, indicating that while it's a theoretical concern for central bankers, it hasn't yet significantly influenced policy decisions. (01:31:20) - Jeffrey Katzenberg, a renowned entertainment executive and co-founder of DreamWorks, discusses his investment in Nova Sky Stories, a drone entertainment company co-founded by Kimbal Musk. He likens Nova's innovative use of thousands of proprietary drones to create sky-based visuals to the early days of Pixar, emphasizing its potential to revolutionize storytelling. Katzenberg expresses excitement about collaborating with Musk to develop immersive "Sky Story" experiences, aiming to establish a new era of family-friendly entertainment. (01:56:54) - Jessica Livingston, co-founder of Y Combinator, discusses her observations on the evolving startup ecosystem in San Francisco, noting a significant revitalization and optimism compared to previous years. She reflects on the importance of founders being deeply committed to their ventures, emphasizing that genuine interest and dedication are crucial for navigating the challenges of building a successful startup. Livingston also highlights the value of maintaining a focused and disciplined approach during the early stages of a company, suggesting that minimizing distractions can enhance productivity and increase the likelihood of achieving product-market fit. (02:31:52) - Zachary Bookman is the co-founder and CEO of OpenGov, a company that provides cloud software solutions to local governments and state agencies. In the conversation, he discusses the challenges of modernizing government operations, emphasizing the importance of transparency and efficiency in public administration. He also highlights the need for mission-driven approaches to improve government performance and accountability. TBPN.com is made possible by: Ramp - https://ramp.com Figma - https://figma.com Vanta - https://vanta.com Linear - https://linear.app Eight Sleep - https://eightsleep.com/tbpn Wander - https://wander.com/tbpn Public - https://public.com AdQuick - https://adquick.com Bezel - https://getbezel.com Numeral - https://www.numeralhq.com Polymarket - https://polymarket.com Attio - https://attio.com/tbpn Fin - https://fin.ai/tbpn Graphite - https://graphite.dev Restream - https://restream.io Profound - https://tryprofound.com Julius AI - https://julius.ai Follow TBPN: https://TBPN.com https://x.com/tbpn https://open.spotify.com/show/2L6WMqY3GUPCGBD0dX6p00?si=674252d53acf4231 https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/technology-brothers/id1772360235 https://www.youtube.com/@TBPNLive