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Leading Learning Podcast interviewee Denise Roosendaal The credentialing landscape is changing fast. With 1.8 million credentials now in the U.S. marketplace and AI reshaping entire professions, organizations need to understand not just what credentials to offer but how the meaning of competence is evolving. In this episode of the Leading Learning Podcast, co-host Celisa Steele talks with Denise Roosendaal, executive director of the Institute for Credentialing Excellence (I.C.E.). Denise shares how assessment is moving from point-in-time tests toward ongoing, real-world evidence of competence, why the most important skills of the future may be the uniquely human ones, and what it takes to build a culture of foresight that helps credentialing bodies and learning businesses get ahead of what’s coming. To tune in, listen below. To make sure you catch all future episodes, be sure to subscribe on Apple Podcasts , Spotify , or wherever you listen to podcasts. Listen to the Show Access the Transcript Download a PDF transcript of this episode’s audio. Read the Show Notes Celisa Steele: [00:00:03] If you want to grow the reach, revenue, and impact of your learning business, you’re in the right place. I’m Celisa Steele. Jeff Cobb: [00:00:10] I’m Jeff Cobb, and this is the Leading Learning Podcast. Celisa Steele: [00:00:17] Certification , certificate , microcredential , badge —these terms often get lumped together. But they’re not interchangeable. They represent different business models, different purposes, and different promises to learners and employers. Jeff Cobb: [00:00:32] Our guest in this episode, number 483, is Denise Roosendaal, executive director of the Institute for Credentialing Excellence (I.C.E.). Denise has worked for more than 35 years in the credentialing space and has led I.C.E. for 15 of them. Celisa Steele: [00:00:46] Denise walks us through the credentialing landscape—which includes a whopping 1.8 million credentials in the U.S. marketplace—and what that ecosystem means for workforce development and the learning businesses operating in it. Jeff Cobb: [00:00:59] You and she also cover how assessment is evolving from point-in-time tests toward ongoing, real-world evidence of competence and what that may m

The credentialing landscape is changing fast. With 1.8 million credentials now in the U.S. marketplace and AI reshaping entire professions, organizations need to understand not just what credentials to offer but how the meaning of competence is evolving. In this episode of the Leading Learning Podcast, co-host Celisa Steele talks with Denise Roosendaal, executive director of the Institute for Credentialing Excellence (I.C.E.). Denise shares how assessment is moving from point-in-time tests toward ongoing, real-world evidence of competence, why the most important skills of the future may be the uniquely human ones, and what it takes to build a culture of foresight that helps credentialing bodies and learning businesses get ahead of what’s coming. Show notes and a downloadable transcript are available at https://www.leadinglearning.com/episode483 .